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I have a real nice stainless Remington Model 7 rifle in 300 saum and looking for the perfect scope for it.  The scope has to be  light and compact, like the rifle and balance the rifle out.  Price is not really a issue, but I am not one to waste money if I can help it.   I intend to use the rifle for elk hunting in think brush/rainforests we have here in Washington state.  Here are some models I had in mind:
 
Bushnell's 1.24-4x24 Elite 4200 Rifle Scope
Leupold 2-7x33 European 30mm
Leupold 1.5x20 Vx-iii 30mm
Leupold 1.75-6x32 Vx-iii
 
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I have a few depending on what your willing to fork out:
 
1. The Leupold 1.75-6 (that you mentioned
2. Leupold VX3 2.5-8x36 (probably my favorite Leupold)
3. Kahles CL 2-7
4. Swarovski 3-9x36 AV (1" tube)
 
 
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If you opt for one of the Leupold's I would suggest getting the heavy duplex reticle which helps their performance in low light.


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Originally posted by claytonkolb claytonkolb wrote:

I have a real nice stainless Remington Model 7 rifle in 300 saum and looking for the perfect scope for it.  The scope has to be  light and compact, like the rifle and balance the rifle out.  Price is not really a issue, but I am not one to waste money if I can help it.   I intend to use the rifle for elk hunting in think brush/rainforests we have here in Washington state.  Here are some models I had in mind:
 
Bushnell's 1.24-4x24 Elite 4200 Rifle Scope
Leupold 2-7x33 European 30mm
Leupold 1.5x20 Vx-iii 30mm
Leupold 1.75-6x32 Vx-iii
 
............All there are pretty good choices! Any particular reason for a 30mm tube?.....To be light and compact, my preference for your needs would be a 1" straight tubed scope. Nothing is really gained with a 30mm unless you already have 30mm rings..............On my 20" barreled .375 Ruger sits a 1.5-5x20 VX3 with the German #4. Its light, fast to the target, with a very good FOV!
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 I suggest the Leupold VXIII 2.5-8 ... 300 RSUM has some reach to it and 8X on top would help
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I have a 3-9x40 Nikon Monarch on mine and you can be the judge if it is to big. The Bushnell 4200 3-9x40 is similar sized and also an excellent choice. I also like the 2.5-8 Leo suggestion.


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I do like the idea of the Leupy VXIII 2.5-8.  It is quite light at 11.6 oz, and is shorter than the the 3-9's mentioned.
 
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Cool looking Seven Tahqua.. I was hoping to grab a stainless Seven or XCR  this upcoming Spring, but some marketing genius at Remington discontinued them ?!?!?! Loco.
 
BTW,,is that a Bear pelt it's sitting on ? impressive.


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Doesn't Zeiss have a 2.5-8 in the Conquest line? You should be able to see through that one.
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I like the Leupold 2.5 X 8 model.  You can always get the little doo-dad on the front for "Rainguard" protection....for extra money, of course.  Bandito 
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I own the 2.5x8 vx-III Leupold mentioned on a Rem 700 BDL 375 RUM and it is a terrific scope.  With your caliber I would suggest a upper mag in that range as you may need to take a longer shot at some point in time.  The scope pyro6999 mentioned would be fine, a little lighter a tad longer, you choice, but would be excellent.  An alternative would be a Zeiss Conquest.  I have never owned one, but all the guys on the OT have only good things to say about them.  Here is one.
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A little longer and heavier than either of the Leupolds, but just an alternative to throw into the mix.
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Originally posted by martin3175 martin3175 wrote:

Cool looking Seven Tahqua.. I was hoping to grab a stainless Seven or XCR  this upcoming Spring, but some marketing genius at Remington discontinued them ?!?!?! Loco.
 
BTW,,is that a Bear pelt it's sitting on ? impressive.
 Martin, you should be able to find one on www.gunbroker.com or www.gunsamerica.com when you are ready.  I am sure you already know that, so if I am posting the redundant, then forget about it.
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Another vote for the VX III 2.5-8X36.  Great scope for smaller rifles.  I'd go with a Custom Shop model and let them put in a German#4 reticle.  It only costs $35 more.

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If cost isn't an issue I would go with something with better glass than a Leupold.  Maybe a Kahles, Zeiss, Meopta, Swaro, Trijicon.  You certainly won't be wasting money of any of those, and you will have a much better scope and be able to hunt later and earlier.  
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Originally posted by martin3175 martin3175 wrote:

Cool looking Seven Tahqua.. I was hoping to grab a stainless Seven or XCR  this upcoming Spring, but some marketing genius at Remington discontinued them ?!?!?! Loco.
 
BTW,,is that a Bear pelt it's sitting on ? impressive.
 
Yep, that is from my best bear to date.
It looks like the present XCR is only in camo.


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If your budget can tolerate it, going to a Kahles Helia CL 2x7 or 3x9 would be a better choice or the Trijicon 3x9, but the Leupold that I have has excellent glass, maybe not as good as the two I mentioned, but will get the job done.  It just depends on how much money you want to put into the scope and whether it is worth it to you.  You mentioned you wanted to keep it light and compact, which the Leupolds definately are, as well as the Kahles Helia CL 2x7, the 3x9 and the Trijicon are getting out of the compact range.
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How about a Swaro AV 3-9 X 36. That's what I put on my little Kimber 84M...great combo for sure.
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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

If your budget can tolerate it, going to a Kahles Helia CL 2x7 or 3x9 would be a better choice or the Trijicon 3x9, but the Leupold that I have has excellent glass, maybe not as good as the two I mentioned, but will get the job done.  It just depends on how much money you want to put into the scope and whether it is worth it to you.  You mentioned you wanted to keep it light and compact, which the Leupolds definately are, as well as the Kahles Helia CL 2x7, the 3x9 and the Trijicon are getting out of the compact range.
...............The Kahles Helia CL 2x7`s were discontinued. Don`t know if there are still any out there to be gotten! 
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I compared a Kahles 2-7 and the Leupold 2.5-8X36  for about three months, under all conditions.  The Kahles is a prettier picture, but it had no advantage early and late.  The Kahles wasn't nearly as precise in adjustment and didn't hold zero like the VX III.  The Kahles was an AH, but I had the same result with my CL 3-9X42, which is why I no longer have it.
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Originally posted by claytonkolb claytonkolb wrote:

I have a real nice stainless Remington Model 7 rifle in 300 saum and looking for the perfect scope for it.  The scope has to be  light and compact, like the rifle and balance the rifle out.  Price is not really a issue, but I am not one to waste money if I can help it.   I intend to use the rifle for elk hunting in think brush/rainforests we have here in Washington state.  Here are some models I had in mind:
 
Bushnell's 1.24-4x24 Elite 4200 Rifle Scope
Leupold 2-7x33 European 30mm
Leupold 1.5x20 Vx-iii 30mm
Leupold 1.75-6x32 Vx-iii
 
....................Since your original post above says that you would like a more compact and lighter scope and since your hunting elk will be in thicker brush and rain forests, then at the most, a 6X on the high end will be more than adequate for just such a purpose............ In those conditions your shots should certainly be within 200 yards and if you ever venture out and do some plains hunting, the 5X or 6X on the high end for deer and elk, is good out to 400 to 500 yards!.....When you start getting into the Zeiss`Kahles, and other 3x9`s and so on, your scope weight gets into the 13 to 14 oz. and higher weight range..............More magnification= more weight and dimension. Soon, before you know it, your idea of a compact or what you may wind up with, is not a compact any more!  
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Since the VXIII is .2" inches longer and weighs .2 oz more than the VXIII 1.75-6 Leupold, and has a 36mm vs. 32mm objective, it sure makes sense to me to go with the  2.5-8 X36, as I posted previously.  What advantage does the 1.75-6 have over it? 
 
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Originally posted by Mojo Mojo wrote:

Since the VXIII is .2" inches longer and weighs .2 oz more than the VXIII 1.75-6 Leupold, and has a 36mm vs. 32mm objective, it sure makes sense to me to go with the  2.5-8 X36, as I posted previously.  What advantage does the 1.75-6 have over it? 
 
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Originally posted by Mojo Mojo wrote:

Since the VXIII is .2" inches longer and weighs .2 oz more than the VXIII 1.75-6 Leupold, and has a 36mm vs. 32mm objective, it sure makes sense to me to go with the  2.5-8 X36, as I posted previously.  What advantage does the 1.75-6 have over it? 
 
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I think the only advantage the 1.75-6 has over the 2.5-8 is more ring spacing. The former will mount on long actions with no problem.  The 2.5-8 is perfect for a M7 Remy.
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Agreed on the ring spacing, there, tahqua.  Squeezer must have had a "senior moment" as I have once in awhile.  No 10 lashings with a wet noodle necessary! 
 
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