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I hope you all get a chance to see them.

I am 32yrs old and can greatly appreciate what people in the past did to ensure we have these things for generations to come.

I am not a tree hugger but am glad we can have great forests and these other great wonders for years to come.  

I wish 2 things, that we did not wipe out the Indians and that we could have appreciated the wild animals more than just slaughtering them.  

Again I am not a nut job but I believe the white man was pretty wasteful.

I have made it to 47 states Maine, Hawaii, and RI are the last... I cannot wait to see them all!!!...


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  Yosemite is having a hard time right now.
Maine has more hillbillies than WVA.
I appreciate the animals, although the slaughtering part when they're hanging from meathooks can get to be just a chore.
"We" didn't wipe out the Indians. I have an Osage step mother, two step brothers and two step sisters who are Osage and a whole bunch of Osage friends and relatives who are all doing fine.
Did I mention my Cherokee cousins? They're fine, as well. The Osages and the Cherokees were in continuous warfare. Their story was repeated across the continent.

This is Oklahoma and we do have many tribes represented among our people.
My favorite Indian bumper sticker goes like this:

Welcome to Pawnee Country
(watch your horse)

The Sioux started out as an Eastern woodlands tribe... how'd they get way out West?



Edited by Alan Robertson - September/06/2013 at 00:06
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We didn't wipe out the Indians.  The Govt. just treated them like cr@p.  I say them.  I am part Cherokee and the wife is part Choctaw.  Small part but still part.  Not enough to be considered Indians.  It is shameful the way the Govt. and a lot of people behaved towards the tribes.  What I saw of the program was very good.
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You are correct about the treatment of the Indians, which is still going on today, in many ways.
B.I.A.= Boss Indians Around

The problem is usually not due to some malicious intent of government to screw tribes around, it's just the way bureaucracies operate.
The first person in a position of authority who has an idea, gets to institute that idea, regardless of result or method. It can be the dumbest idea ever spawned, but the powerful bureaucratic boss gets to prove their power and is never ever held responsible.

A fine modern example of bureaucracies involving Native Americans and the natural world is found in Alaska. For whatever reason (greed, money) the Gov't moved several villages away from their traditional areas and concentrated them on some barrier islands. Bad idea- the islands are made of sand and gravel and travel with the tides.

Fast forward to 2013... the natural erosion/migration of the islands is threatening the villages. The EPA and others are claiming it's because of global warming and are spending tons of money on further study and advertising essentially to promote the theory of man- made climate change, justifying their (Obama Admin.) war against coal companies and energy producers, in general.

Meanwhile, the native villagers are left to fend for themselves because of some new twist in the way the gov't deals with tribes. The villagers have understandably filed huge claims for money from the gov't, which will probably be paid in such amounts that they will all become rich (until they spend it) at your expense.

This treatment of Indians is a two- way street. As witness, one could examine a story unfolding in SW Oklahoma within the past month involving members of the Kiowa tribe and a private landowner(s). This is a story for another day, however.
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Here is a quote I have recently come across... "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the American government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian".
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Spot On!
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