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  This is in OUR Texas?  Like in Texas of the USA?
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Read that story ystd after reading Ted's post.
 
I have a feeling this one is going to go away very soon.  One of the other homeowner assoc people says he had not heard of the issue and was going to bring it up to the board right away.  The news crew on sitte made a point of showing many other vehicles with stickers as well.
 
Some people let a little authority go to there heads - another case of dimf**kwittery.
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I understand how HOA's are supposed to help keep property values and security up. BUT when they are nothing more than a tool for the antis to harass the patriotic, or freedom loving, they then have gone too far. Rights end where they infringe upon the rights of others. Rights are to be defended, and in my humble estimation, it should be that rights are defended with any force necessary to ensure they are respected.
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I have a little experience on both sides of HOAs , one they have almost nothing to do with the government. They are a contract you sign and agree too when you buy your home in that area. They are made up of home owners in that area, when you break the rules you are breaking your word and contractual agreement with the other home owners. The government does not get involved till one side or the other takes it to court to enforce or change that contract. The penalties in a HOA agreement are spelled out in writhing for you to read before you sign it. What it gets down to if you don't want to keep you word that you gave in writhing and witness then don't buy a home  in an area that has a Home Owners Association. If you ever want a real crappy job be on the board of an HOA, it does not pay and someone is always wanting to not abide by their contract.
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Agreed Duce, but this issue seems to be one of scope.  Other vehicles in the complex also had clearly visible bumper/window stickers.  The agreement was to prevent stickers that "advertise".
 
This rule was clearly not enforced with other vehicle owners.  He had more than one sticker but numbers of stickers was not a factor in the letter that I could see - clearly these stickers are not "advertising" in the sense that there was no inducement to buy a product/service.  He would have a good position for a court challenge in my mind vis-a-vis non inforcement of other violators.
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I too have some dealings with them. I was a project manager and dealt with several of them. You'd be surprised at what they try, because they think they can get away with it. I wouldn't ever buy a home where there is any attachment to a HOA. Here's a great example of what I am talking about. The State needs right of way for a transportation project. The homeowners can negotiate the right of way settlement and the project gets built. when there is a HOA involved, the homeowner can't necessarily negotiate that contract in their own best interest, the next thing you know, the cost of negotiating that agreement has increased dramatically due in large part to the demands that the HOA will put on that negotiation. The State then must either, settle, or condemn (confiscate) In the end, it's the homeowner that takes the shaft. No thanks. More often than not, HOA's enforce ideals without any regard for common sense.
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If you try to selectively enforce the covenants in an HOA contract you are really asking for trouble, usually things can be changed by a vote of all the home owners. One home owner was complaining loudly about one of the rules and making threats to go to court. When the origin of the rule was looked up guess who had proposed it in the first place, same guy who was a retired lawyer. At least it was enough egg on his face to shut him up. Usually it is about 2% of the people that do 98 % of the complaining.

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