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Has anyone seen the reviews on optics4birding?  Are they valid reviews? I bring this up because I brought up the Cornell Lab of Ornithology before and then I was told they were bogus.

 

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I can't remember her name but, if I am remembering correctly, the lady that Optics4Birding has doing their reviews relies pretty heavily on the Cornell study. That's not to say that she doesn't know what she's talking about nor that her opinions are invalid but, as with all reviews from all people, take what you read with a grain of salt.
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I know that there was a Laura's binocular reviews at binocular.org or something similar. Is she also the one that did the reviews for optics4birding? I thought that was Michael and Diane Porter but I may be getting one confused with another.

 

In my opinion all of the reviews mentioned are somewhat useful in that they allow us to get a general impression of the product. However, one needs to keep in mind that the subjective nature of any given reviewer plays a huge part in the review process. In many cases what one person finds unacceptable might prove just the opposite for the next person. The Cornell review is fairly accurate with their ratings of many of the binoculars however, I disagree with a few of their ratings highly. Using forums such as this in conjunction with the various reviews posted on the net seems to me to be the most intelligent route to follow as you do get intelligent discussion over one model or another. With many review sites you are left without the ability to ask questions as to why they felt one model was clearly superior to another.

 

That is one reason why I love visiting this type of forum. ;)

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optics4birders has the scorecard  rating system, how does all this fit together ???

 

I'm just wondering if the scorecard system is worth taking to heart or not.

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You always have to take this type of thing with a grain of salt. Almost all of the binocular reviews I have seen on the web are subjective. Very little hard data in terms of measured brightness, durability tests, etc... Still they can prove useful as many of the higher ranked bins in the various price ranges are quite satisfying to most users.
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Laura Erickson has never written reviews for Optics4Birding. She used to write for Binoculars.com.

Our reviews are written by a Ph D biochemist who is an active birder, as are all of us on the main staff.

I was probably the person who spoke the the original poster in this thread. My problem with the Cornell Ornithology Lab reviews (and I'm a Cornell grad) is that their methodology is flawed. First, not all reviewers are trained in testing optics. Next, not all reviewers review all binoculars in the same price class. This leads to gross problems. In the 2013 review, look at the differences in scores for the Vortex Viper HD 8x42 and the Eagle Optics Golden Eagle HD 8x42. The only difference in these two binoculars are the color of the rubber armoring and the logo. If you don't believe that, call Vortex and ask. Yet, the scores in all categories of testing vary greatly. The reviewers at Cornell certainly didn't look at chromatic aberration, because the results would have been much different.

Because of our position as a dealer for many brands, our reviews do not compare products between brands. We do extensive field testing, not just by the review writer, compare notes, do the physical measurements such as close focus, weight, and IPD, and come up with a list of pros and cons. If something is really bad in its price category, we just won't write a review.
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Welcome to OT, Steve! Glad you're here!
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Welcome to the forum, Steve.

I never realized you were in Irvine.  I am in Southern California as well.

As far as Cornell reviews go, I was never a fan.  A lot of their results simply do not agree with my observations and in the end I have to trust my own set of eyeballs.

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I have also followed the Cornell reviews, and they are a haphazard compilation

of over 100 binoculars by users of many different abilities with scoring that is not

typical of other reviews.  The typical top models do rise to the top, but beyond that

not much is to be gained, if one is in the market for a binocular.  Personal preference

is important, and it is just a guide only. 

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