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ok so i have been pouring through the mountains of info. on the net and can seem to find no help. Im looking for a small variable power scope for my ar 15 flat top. been looking at the leupold vx1 1-4 and the weaver 1-3, along with a few others. like to stay under about $250. like the 1-4 or slightly more. must stay short i'd like to stay under the 10.5" length. want quality dependable tought scope. nothing fancy required. anyone help? 
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I'd skip the VX-I ..better optics for the $ are available..
The Weaver has an excellent reputation for reliability and is a good choice ...
Could also try 3200 Elite ( length may be an issue)
I have several and they handle 12 ga recoil just fine
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yeah i have been hearing some bad press on the vx i, thats why i was worried. I do like the looks of the the suggestions but all seem to long. seriously considering the weaver.
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pentax gameseeker?
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If I were you and if possible, go with the 1-4x20 VX2 at $50 more than your $250 budget.
 
Another scope you may want to look at is the new Nikon Monarch 1-4x20 African for $279. You even get an image of a caped buff on one or both of the side turret caps!! It`s $20 cheaper than the VX2 and worth considering. 
 
I also like the Weaver V3 1-3x20 for $150. Good little scope for the money.
 
The VX2, the Monarch and the V3 are the right size you`re looking for, the right length and all are lite weight. 
 
A 3x to 4x will do anything a 5x will.
 
When it comes to scopes, you get what you pay for and the VX2 and the Monarch would get you the better glass over the Gameseeker, whereas the V3 might be closer in optics to the Gameseeker but I`m not sure on that one.
 
 
 
 
 
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I agree with Squeezer and I really like the vx2 1-4, great scope with good optics.
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You may wish to consider an older El Paso Weaver K2.5 Micro track. Tough as nails and can be had for $60 - $100. It's fixed power but I find it covers everything just fine. The one I have seems to have better overall glass than my VX-II. Just a little more sun reflection but VERY clear.
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Weaver 1.5-4.5X24 Classic Extreme with illuminated reticle appears to be the best deal going at the moment.
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I agree with the Weaver Classic Extreme.Plenty of scope for the money if you can buy it at closeout.Nice scope for a AR type rifle or a lever action brush rifle. 
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The Weaver Extreme comes with a plex or #4 reticle, which do you prefer in this scope? Is the plex a regular plex or a heavy plex? Is the spacing between the heavy lines in the #4 close or far apart?
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Weaver Classic Extreme #4 Illuminated German Post Reticle


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thanks for the input so far. was wondering if anyone knew why the vx-1 leupold is not liked? The 3 piece tube or crappy glass? i hail from the part of the country that swears by them, wondering why this particular model was dis-liked.

Like the features of the brands and types suggested, most are just out of my budget. Not being cheap, just have horrendous ammo bill's right now...lol.  Weaver is weighing heavy on my mind.....time to read some more.
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I have a Leupold Vari-XII 1-4 on a 308.  Shotgun model, with the heavy duplex.  I like it.
 
Leupold says that the same scope is the Rifleman, now.    The VX-I should be better, since it's multicoated
 
It's not the brightest scope at first light or at dusk, but it is the easiest, fastest scope to get on target that I have used.  Great at short range when set at 1X ( actually 1.6X or something).
 
I don't know the last time I adjusted the windage or elevation - at least three years ago.  I changed powders.
 
 
 
 
 
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The problem that a lot of people have with the Leupold line is that you can usually get the same performance for less money from other companies.  Personally, I would not even look at a Leupold below the VXII line.  The VXI or Rifleman scopes are priced at about at about 190-220 for standard 3-9 power. The VXI or Rifleman are multi-coated where as in the same price range you can get a Burris Fullfield, Nikon Buckmaster, Weaver Classic V all of which are brighter fullymuliti-coated. 
 
I will go even further to say that the multi coated Bushnell 3200 elite looked better to my eyes then the Rifleman. 
 
Leupold has a lot of fans and with great reason they still make a very solid and good scope. They have a great warranty and my experience with customer service has been very good.  Also they are still an American Company employing American workers (although some stuff is made over seas) But don't fall into the deer camp stories that the sun rises and sets on a Golden Ring. There are some scopes out there that some of those hunters would laugh at just because they don't like the brand names of Bushnell or Weaver.  I've embarassed a few of those Leupy fans who hunted with their expensive Vari X III when they looked through my 4200 Elite. Big Smile
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Great to see you back on OT, AC.
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I have a Burris and a Weaver.  Good scopes.  Guy I know swears by Buckmasters.  Haven't heard anything bad about 3200's.
As far as I know, the Rifleman is not multicoated, the Buckmaster is multicoated but not fully multicoated, and Leupold scopes say Made in US.
 
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