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hi iam looking at a new scope for a 7mm rum sedero rifle and thinking high end and watch is better BT-Plex or BR  or other high end scopes    Just looking for people pro and cons Swarovski or what ever thanks alot
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Perhaps this Swaro. would suit your needs at a lower price: http://www.swfa.com/pc-8617-278-swarovski-4-12x50-american-riflescope.aspx

Don't get me wrong, I like the Z6, and the only 'con' I can think of is price...I'm not sure why you would need a scope that goes down to 2x on that particular rifle...I assume it's going to be an open country shooter.
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If you can afford it, it is a ncie scope. 

If you can't afford it, then it is definitely not worth it and you should look at many other less expensive options.

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If you do not already have the rifle I would suggest something  with less vicious recoil.  (just a thought)  One should be realistic regarding what game they intend to shoot and the practical distances at which which it can be killed and select the cartridge accordingly.   While you gain a little advantage in flatter trajectory if you look at the 30-06 and consider paying 1/4 th the price for each box of ammo and higher availability of ammo with a much wider selection of loads available and a lot less recoil you might ultimately be happier with a traditional cartridge than a trendy one. If you feel the need for a hard to feed cartridge selection how about 6.5x284 in a Kimber .  If you have lots of money to throw at it buy the Swarovski if you like it but this will ultimately be a rifle you wont shoot much because you wont enjoy the recoil where if you bought a 30-06 and put a scope on that you could dial in correction for distance you would probably want to shoot it every week and you would become much more profecient with it and avoid developing a flinch from anticipating the recoil of the RUMBazooka
Ballistics Results
Here we will compare 7mmRUM   *  300 WM  * &   30-06 
Cartridge Information
Index Number Cartridge Type Weight (grs.) Bullet Style Primer No. Ballistic Coefficient
PR7UM5 Premier® A-Frame 175 A-Frame™ Pointed Soft Point 9 1/2 M 0.493
PRSC300WB Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 Swift™ Scirocco™ Bonded 9 1/2 M 0.507
PRSC3006B Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 Swift™ Scirocco™ Bonded 9 1/2 0.500

Velocity (ft/sec)
Cartridge Type Bullet Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500
Premier® A-Frame 175 AF PSP 3025 2831 2645 2467 2296 2212
Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 SSB 2960 2274 2595 2424 2259 2100
Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 SSB 2700 2522 2351 2186 2028 1878

Energy (ft-lbs)
Cartridge Type Bullet Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500
Premier® A-Frame 175 AF PSP 3555 3114 2718 2364 2047 1764
Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 SSB 3501 3075 2692 2348 2039 1762
Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 SSB 2913 2542 2208 1910 1644 1409

Short-Range Trajectory
Cartridge Type Bullet 50 100 150 200 250 300
Premier® A-Frame 175 AF PSP 0.0 0.6 zero -1.7 -4.7 -9.0
Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 SSB 0.1 0.6 zero -1.8 -4.9 -9.4
Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 SSB 0.0 zero -1.3 -4.0 -8.3 -14.2

Long-Range Trajectory
Cartridge Type Bullet 100 150 200 250 300 400 500
Premier® A-Frame 175 AF PSP 2.4 2.8 2.0 zero -3.4 -14.5 -32.2
Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 SSB 1.5 1.4 zero -2.6 -6.7 -19.3 -38.7
Premier® Scirocco™ Bonded 180 SSB 2.0 1.7 zero -3.3 -8.3 -23.9 -47.9

http://www.biggameinfo.com/BalCalc.aspxKarate  
   
 
 
 
 
 
 


Edited by Urimaginaryfrnd - December/27/2008 at 16:28
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The 7 RUM is no less practical than a Z6 IMO.  So I guess I'm saying it's not worth the price paid for me.  To each his own but I am perfectly happy using scopes that cost 1/2 the price of a Z6.  Urimaginaryfriend is right on with the7 RUM as a cartridge.  Different strokes for different folks.

Edited by Horsemany - December/27/2008 at 16:45
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hi thanks for the replys i have the gun and theres not much kick then my 30-06,  what do you Guys recommend for my 7mm rum, scope wise long range shoting and from dusk to dawn hunting around $1500 ish  thanks for any help !!!
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For me some may be, and some maybe not. Some of it would depend on how many rifles, and scopes I own. Once I mount a scope on a rifle, it's pretty much there for life. If I had a high power scope on it, and had to go on a hunt where the shots would be close, and fast, I would want a Z6, or gun with a lower powered scope. If I had enough scopes to cover all the hunting situations I could encounter, then no. If I need 2x, and 12x, and only had one rifle, I know what I'm buying.

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so what do u think the best scope for around $1500 range
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My cousin has 7mm RUM in Sendero and it's a real nice rifle. He shot a buck at 630+ yards with it this past season. The scope he uses is a 6.5-20x50 varix-III with thin duplex. Scope and all it's probably well over 10lbs, closer to 11.

If you really want a z6, SWFA has two 1.7-10x42's listed in excellent condition on the sample list for $1,500.00. Personally though, I like a little more power for that rifle, (x)-12x50, minimum where we hunt.
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