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I've started shopping around for a new toy and I wanted it in stainless finish.  Seems most of the mfg's are going to this anti glare matte stainless finish.  I'm not digging it..... I'm a bit put off because I'm not finding much in the original stainless look.
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Savage still has the regular stainless.
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Dig out that polishing kit.

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If nothing else, you can always just buy the new toy anyway, sand down past the blast finish using progressively finer grits of emory cloth, then polish out the surface of the metal with lapping paste / polishing compound until you get the sheen you want.

Or take it to a gunsmith or machine shop and have them polish it for you.
 
It's not hard to do; it just takes time and effort.


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I agree. I have a few of the new Ruger Hawkeye stainless rifles and dont care for the new matte finish. The older version, MK II, had a very nice polished stainless that I much prefer although the triggers sucked and the stocks were bulkier.
 
Check Gunbroker, good deals to be had there sometimes.
 
I had one of them bead blasted and while its still matte, its a nicer matte than what comes from the factory.
 
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Hehe - I feel the same way.

Almost all my rifles are SS. In fact, I sometimes end up buying an extra  rifle that I already have in a different caliber just because I find it in SS...  BAD addiction. This year I cracked for a Browning 308 Lightweight SS Takedown (aluminum receiver, SS barrel), and I bought my older boy a Win 70 Featherweight SS  in 243 as his first deer rifle.

Thank G_d there are not too many SS rifles - and even fewer which combine good wood with SS - so temptation is limited:-)
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  I don't have an all stainless rifle.  But I do have a M70 Classic w/a CM receiver and SS bolt.  The extractor REALLY galls at a certain point in it's raceway when closing the bolt.  So how is the galling in these all stainless rifles?  Just wondering.
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

Savage still has the regular stainless.
Savage and Marlin both still do, but Ruger, Browning and some others have gone to the matte...
 
To RifleD's comments and AJs (love that new avatar).. I've considered doing the polishing process, just afraid of how it will turn out.  Could make it uglier than it started.
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What kinda toy are you looking for?

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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

What kinda toy are you looking for?

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Originally posted by scooter65 scooter65 wrote:

Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

What kinda toy are you looking for?

25/06
 
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I never really like SS on my rifles, or any gun as a matter of fact. To me it makes the gun look to much like a safe queen. Not saying that's the case in all instances (its probably a very small %) but that's just what my eye sees. Plus having the military background i never understood getting a weapon that stands out from a very long way off. 
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I would think a stainless rifle would not be good for hunting because it would reflect the sun too much and make you stick out. Teh animal would see the glint off the stainless finish and say hey that aint rignt and off it goes. For a bench rest gun it wouldn't matter but for a hunting rifle I would stay away from shiny. Just my opinion.



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Originally posted by 300S&W 300S&W wrote:

   So how is the galling in these all stainless rifles?  Just wondering.

You know, a lot of people talk abt galling w/ SS, and I have always thought it was a matter of time before I run into it - but I never have so far, although I have about 9 or 10 SS receivers now, and I must have gone through another 8-10?

But - I work long hours so I only put through so many bullets down range per year. Maybe if I shot more? I think it is less of an issue than people think.
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 BUT in certain climatic situations it's the only way to go.  Anyone read the article and see the pics in Rifle mag where Phil Shoemaker's daughter Tia found a Rem M700 SS buried in a sandbar in Alaska(freshwater)?  Lets just say everything else other than the SS didn't fair very well at all.
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Stainless is good!Big Grin  Especially with dark grain wood.
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Originally posted by shooter07 shooter07 wrote:

Plus having the military background i never understood getting a weapon that stands out from a very long way off. 


I guess it depends which service-  I am ex-Navy, and we use a lot of SS:-) Maybe that's why I like my rifles in SS?

In fact, while gun-grade SS does rust in a corrosive environment, I still find it a lot better for mucking around in boats. I have spent a lot of time in sailboats and ships all my life (used to make a living at it), and I always assume any of my rifles will end up on board for a good while. A sailboat is such a corrosive environment that I find it makes a big difference.

I have not tried that new Rem. extreme finish yet (XTR?) but I plan to do that sometime. Although I want to pick the old version - which looks like stainless:-) - not the black XTR II.


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Originally posted by WestOfPecos WestOfPecos wrote:

Originally posted by 300S&W 300S&W wrote:

   So how is the galling in these all stainless rifles?  Just wondering.

You know, a lot of people talk abt galling w/ SS, and I have always thought it was a matter of time before I run into it - but I never have so far, although I have about 9 or 10 SS receivers now, and I must have gone through another 8-10?

But - I work long hours so I only put through so many bullets down range per year. Maybe if I shot more? I think it is less of an issue than people think.
 
  This M70 is a rifle that was put togther from new parts last yr.  The high part on the long extractor(control round feed) is what galls.
   Maybe the brand rifles you have (no control round feed?) is the reason you don't experience it?
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

Stainless is good!Big Grin  Especially with dark grain wood.

Ow, SVT, this is a beauty. The dark wood looks phenom with it. Great pic! Savage BTVS?
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yeppers  Bud has her twin in blued and blonde wood
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Originally posted by 300S&W 300S&W wrote:

  This M70 is a rifle that was put togther from new parts last yr.  The high part on the long extractor(control round feed) is what galls.
   Maybe the brand rifles you have (no control round feed?) is the reason you don't experience it?

I actually have a brand new M70 SS Featherweight in 243 that I just got for my 12 year old son. It is a new production M70. It does not have a lot of bullets through it: we just sighted it in and did the early barrel break-in, so he only has about 75 bullets through it. But I have not experienced any galling with the extractor. Did it gall from the get go? If not, were there any other symptoms right before?

 I'll check it out tonight and see if I can feel anything.
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  Did it from the git go.  That CM receiver is polishing that SS extractor nicely though.  It's annoying more than anything.  I've been thinking about an after market replacement.
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I can't speak for rifles, but most of the revolvers and pistols I carried were stainless. It sure was nice to come home after a shift in bad weather and just dry it off instead of drying and oiling.
My first revolver was a S&W Mod. 66 and it looked ok, I traded it for another Mod. 66 that had been polished. The polished 66 wasn't as bright as a nickeled 19, and I liked that, but it did look good. The best part was, the polished 66 had a glass smooth double action and I seldom missed with it.
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Originally posted by WestOfPecos WestOfPecos wrote:

Originally posted by 300S&W 300S&W wrote:

   So how is the galling in these all stainless rifles?  Just wondering.

You know, a lot of people talk abt galling w/ SS, and I have always thought it was a matter of time before I run into it - but I never have so far, although I have about 9 or 10 SS receivers now, and I must have gone through another 8-10?

But - I work long hours so I only put through so many bullets down range per year. Maybe if I shot more? I think it is less of an issue than people think.
 
In most cases, the gun manufacturers use a different mat'l for the bolt vs. the rest of the barreled action.  Sometimes the different mat'l is only on the bolt head -- the locking lugs portion of the bolt.  So, just because the firearm is made of SS doesn't necessarily mean it's all SS.  Even if the gun is all SS, you can sometimes avoid galling by using different types of SS for the action and bolt.
 
For example, it's pretty common to see actions made of 416 or 17-4 SS with bolt bodies made of 4140, 4340, etc.  Using dissimilar metals prevents galling.  The tendency to gall also has a lot to do with how tight the fit is between mating parts that must slide against each other and whether or not the sliding parts are kept lubed.
 
Another solution is to apply some kind of high tech coating to the bolt.
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To add to what Ted said; S&W in the 60s and 70s put hard chromed hammer and triggers in their stainless revolvers to prevent galling and wear.Bucky
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