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Hey everyone i was looking to buy another rifle in 308. These are the rifles i think ive whittled it down to

CZ 550 Varmint Kevlar 

Savage 10 24" 5R Threaded Bl. 

Was wondering what you opinions were. Which would be a better rifle. I'll be reloading for it. Plan to shoot long range like 600 yards+.  I was wondering if anybody knows if the CZ has any seating depth restrictions? Can you buy rings and mounts with MOA built into it for the CZ? I've never handled the 550 but i do own a CZ 527, are the triggers exactly the same? Does the Accustock on the savage suck? Will I need to replace it? Is the Savage 10 w/ McMillan stock worth the extra money?

Any other suggestions of rifles that rock?

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I own a Savage Precision Carbine with digital camo Accu-Stock and 20" bull barrel that shoots .5 MOA five shot groups at 200 yards with 168 Match Kings based on load data suggested by one of the Sierra Bulletsmiths.  The stock is quite functional and comfortable to shoot with the downside that the recoil pads are very soft and easy to damage so care needs to be taken on racking them butt down.  Probably little doubt that the McMillan stock would be noticeably better and more stable for precision bench work, especially at extended ranges.  I also have a CZ 527 Kevlar Varminter in .223 that produces similar accuracy as well as a light weight .204 with blond maple stock and and a .452 American.  All produce above average accuracy.  Performance of the two rifles in question should be very similar, pride of ownership probably goes to the CZ 550.  I recall a link on the forum within the last six months or so where someone identified a source for picatinny rails for CZ rifles but do not recall the details.  Hopefully someone here will jump in and point you in the right direction on that.
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My choice was the Savage Model 10 FCP LE in 308 with the HS Precision stock.  It is a very accurate rifle.  I liked it so well I purchased a Model 12 in LRP in 6.5 Creedmoore which has the same HS Precision stock, but a heavier and longer barrel which is ported.

When you get out to 600 yards the 6mm  Bench rest and 6.5 Creedmoore really start to shine with high B.C.  Hornady 6.5 Creedmoore factory target ammo is available for less then the price of National Match 308.


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I have an AR SPR with 18" stainless match grade BHW barrel in 6.5 LBC/Grendel I've shot on steel at 800 -900 yards and am currently awaiting availability of the new Nosler bonded 130 grain long range bullet to see if I can hit the 1100 yard plate within the adjustment range of the SS 3-15x.  I have been tempted by a Savage hunting weight Accu-Stock rifle in 6.5 Creedmore or .260 Remington but have wanted a .280 AI forever so will probably pull the trigger on a Nosler Model 48 Trophy Grade or Patriot in that caliber instead early next year.  January/February are usually good months for discounted gun prices and coincide with my annual contribution to the rat hole account which establishes my self imposed annual limit for firearms and related purchases along with digging into the safes for unused selling/trading stock.
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I am a little down on Savage at the moment.  last few guns I've gotten from them did not shoot well.... after several that shot great!  latest was a model 11 with Accu-stock.  I tried 2 scopes and 3 different ammo... with a Lead-sled and with standard rest.  it would not group better than 3 inches at 100 yds.
 
I was able to return the rifle!  caliber was 7mm-08.  action screws were spot on at 40 lbs.  One before that was a B-mag. the 2nd B-mag was better and we're keeping it.
 
my son just got a model 11 left hand... and is having a 26" barrel put on and action trued.  we'll see how that turns out.
 
I have had no experience with the model you are looking at.
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get a Tikka........    Bucky       
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not a fan the T3lite....   too light weight.. kicks like a freakin mule!Hammer Hit
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Really ?  I hadn't noticed  I just love my Tikka  300 WSM.   I have had three of the police series Savage rifles and all have been exceptionally accurate and easily as accurate as most custom precision rifles that cost much more. I have not really messed with the CZ but I have a friend who has spent a small fortune trying to make one be what he wanted it to be.  The McMillan stock version is very hard to find the HS Precision stock version is more common but the question of do you need that stock depends on your shooting style and use.  Personally I would love to have one with the McMillan stock the feel of the grip is superb. Unfortunately for me the McMillan stocks are usually long wait custom order expensive stocks.  My son has one.  I can do what I need to do without one but would really enjoy having one and if you can find one I suggest you buy it but don't count on it being available, they are so rare I have never seen one from the Savage factory.
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I can't comment on the Savage or CZ, although I like my .22 Savage...just not comparable. The .308 Tikka I have is very manageable. Way less of a kicker than the Remy SS.
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I currently own both the rifles in your post the CZ 550 in Kevlar the Savage 10 FCP OR HS precesion Police Version.

I will suggest the Savage due to the twist rate.

I fully stand behind the quality of both.

I know some people have issues with CZ's but I have found them to be higher quality and better fit.

The savage is accurate and can handle the heavier bullet with the faster twist, the trigger is fully adjustable and smooth the action is decent.

They do not compare to the steyr but they are very smooth.


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Why not a Remington LTR?  
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The Remington LTR wouldnt be a bad one. I was kinda wanting the 24 in barrel and a faster twist that 1/12. How much FPS do you gain with an extra 4 inches out of the .308 anyways?

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Yeah and I already have a 700 in 7mm rem mag that i took 2nd with at a 1000 yard comp. a couple years ago. Haven't really considered one because i like variety. 
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I had a 20" LTR for several years. Fine rifle with the old style 40X trigger. Now, after experiencing the Tikka action I don't miss Remington.

You'll gain 75-100 fps with a 24" vs. a 20" in .308. IMO, a shorter barrel handles better and is easier to thread through brush and timber.

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