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I am completely new to this site, but have lurked for a while.
You guys are definitely light years ahead of me in terms of knowledge about scopes, so I'd love to get some opinions on an upcoming scope purchase.

Here's the story:
I am about to purchase a DPMS LRT-SASS in 7.62 and need a good scope to put on top of it.
The weapon will mainly be used for target and a little hunting. I've always wanted an AR-308 platform and the SASS really fit the bill for my wants. I've hunted for years and have target shot for a long time, but never any real distance.....I want to change that. My current rifle is a Browning A-Bolt .270 with a Leupold VXII 3-9x50. It is a great gun/scope combo, but is limited with what I want to do. I like my Leupold, but oddly enough, I haven't been looking at any for the SASS. In other words: I'm not necessarily brand loyal.

I've been "distance" shooting with my buddies for a little while now and they all have very nice rigs (from .308 to .338LM, to .50BMG). They also have pretty nice scopes which are out of my price range, so I hope I haven't been a little spoiled by their equipment.

The scope I'm getting for the SASS is going to be a gift from someone and needs to be within a price range of $750ish to $850ish. I'd love a high-end scope (i.e Swarovski, Ziess, Nightforce, etc.), but that's not in the cards right now.

I'd like a few suggestions.

My only 2 real criteria are: A) an FFP Mil-Dot (or the "mil-hashmark" as I refer to them) reticle and B) a decent amount of adjustable power (i.e. 4-16 or 5-20, etc.)....I'm flexible on this last one. This is what my friends have been teaching me on, so I'd rather not upset the wagon at this point.
I would also like it if the scope can grow with my capabilities, but this isn't a must. As I get better/more comfortable and graduate to other rifles/calibers, I'd like a scope that is flexible enough to switch to these new guns.

I've been looking at the following brands, but I'm open to suggestions:
a. Vortex
b. Weaver
c. Bushnell Elite Tactical
d. Sightron (maybe...I can't remember)
I've looked at so many that I'm in a bit of information overload


Thanks in advance for your opinions. My shooting buddies have given me their opinions, but since you guys are a lot more plugged in to the optics side of things, I wanted to see if you shared some of the opinions they had.


Thanks,
J
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Welcome to the OT!
 
All very good scopes,might also want to look at Minox ZA5 4-20x50 @ $698.95...SWFA SS 10x 42HD @ $799.95...Meopta Meostar 4-12x40 @ $699.95,all these scopes are sold on the SWFA site.You might also check out the SWFA sample list.
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welcome!! from good ole dothan, is the "grand central station" club still there?

how far do you want to shoot?

you can't go wrong with any in the SS lineup. Vortex PST would be worth a look.

sightron SIII gets a lot of good press.

bushnell is iffy on their customer service, but SWFA is not. their CS is the best.
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Originally posted by stickbow46 stickbow46 wrote:

Welcome to the OT!
 
All very good scopes,might also want to look at Minox ZA5 4-20x50 @ $698.95...SWFA SS 10x 42HD @ $799.95...Meopta Meostar 4-12x40 @ $699.95,all these scopes are sold on the SWFA site.You might also check out the SWFA sample list.

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm not familiar with Minox or Meopta. So, I guess I've got a little more research to do.

I have ready nothing but good about the Super Sniper scope, but I'm looking for something with adjustable magnification. Since I will use it for some hunting, a fixed 10x will be too much, I'm afraid.

Thanks again for the response!
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Originally posted by jjrgr21 jjrgr21 wrote:

welcome!! from good ole dothan, is the "grand central station" club still there?

how far do you want to shoot?

you can't go wrong with any in the SS lineup. Vortex PST would be worth a look.

sightron SIII gets a lot of good press.

bushnell is iffy on their customer service, but SWFA is not. their CS is the best.

Thank you!
Nope, Grand Central Station closed a few years ago. I've always wondered why because it was a very popular place in its time.

Good question about range. A lot of that depends on the capabilities of the weapon. I can comfortably shoot at 300+ yards now, but I'm wanting to eventually take it out as far as I can. I'm sure the SASS can shoot far better than I can at this point. I have a lot of technique learning to do and I was hoping to buy a scope that would allow me to shoot the low yardage targets and longer range stuff. I have two ranges I can go to shoot at. One has a 750 yard max shot and the other has a maximum 1,000 yard shot, so I've got plenty of work to do. I don't even know if the SASS is capable of such distances, but I know that I'm not that capable at this point in my abilities. The SASS is just something I want to get out of my system. One day I'll go back to a bolt gun.

Thanks for the opinion on the Bushnell. It's hard to determine in reviews how much of the stuff people tell you is nit-picky and how much is legit. Customer Service can be a huge deal if your scope ever goes sour, so that is an important aspect.

Thanks again for the replies, keep 'em coming!



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Originally posted by jethro3898 jethro3898 wrote:

Originally posted by stickbow46 stickbow46 wrote:

Welcome to the OT!
 
All very good scopes,might also want to look at Minox ZA5 4-20x50 @ $698.95...SWFA SS 10x 42HD @ $799.95...Meopta Meostar 4-12x40 @ $699.95,all these scopes are sold on the SWFA site.You might also check out the SWFA sample list.

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm not familiar with Minox or Meopta. So, I guess I've got a little more research to do.

I have ready nothing but good about the Super Sniper scope, but I'm looking for something with adjustable magnification. Since I will use it for some hunting, a fixed 10x will be too much, I'm afraid.

Thanks again for the response!
Even though you want to use it for dual purpose I think I'd try to get strictly setup for target first and use the 270 for hunting still.  That guns not really ideal for hunting its so heavy
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i go with the vortex PST mil/mil FFP, and be done with it. that way you can learn right from the start. it has plenty of travel to get you to 800yds. but you will need to shoot good ammo.

http://swfa.com/Vortex-6-24x50-Viper-PST-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P44559.aspx

http://swfa.com/Vortex-4-16x50-Viper-PST-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P44561.aspx
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jjrgr21 has some good recommendations with the Vortexs. I'd lean towards the 4-16x50, as I think it would be the most vesatile if your gong to use it for hunting and target. JMHO.
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Guys, he asked for a FFP scope, which rules out Minox and Sightron among others.

Generally speaking, I think the bet scope for your application is the 3-9x42 Super Sniper with the new reticle:

If you insist on more magnification, Weaver 3-15x50 is your best option in this price range:

ILya
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i am a green horn and know nothing about scopes but i asked for some advice here and took some advice from the good people here and bought a 4x12x40 vortex diamondback with the BCD rectical and sighted it in this morning at 100 yd. and shot a few rounds at 200 yd and suprised myself. i shot 4" groups at 200 yd. and thats good for a old man like me.( but i had a lead sled also) i am happy with the diamondback. all the people here are pro's and have money to buy high end scopes and have a hard time connecting with common folk ( ha ha ha just joking) but it's another option.

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Thanks Ilya I feel asleep at the wheel,glazed over the FFl want.+1 with the SS 3-9 with the new diamond reticle.I have it on the new 5-20  can't say enough good things about it.
Listen to Koshkin he knows exactly what he's talking about.
 
Welcome to the OT!


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Thanks for all of the replies guys.
Seems like I have a lot to consider.

The Weaver and the Vortex Viper were both originally at the top of my list and it appears that they haven't moved.

One of the things that bugs me about the Weaver is that, I think, as of right now they do not make a sun shade for the Tactical. This makes no sense to me. This is a very minor thing, and I would assume that they will be offered at some time.

One plus of the Vortex is that they seem to have great customer service and some cool features (that I'll honestly probably never use).

I'm definitely torn.
I'm going to a couple of gun shops tomorrow, so hopefully one of them will have at least one of those scopes for me to check out for myself.


Thanks for all of the help.
J
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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Guys, he asked for a FFP scope, which rules out Minox and Sightron among others.

Generally speaking, I think the bet scope for your application is the 3-9x42 Super Sniper with the new reticle:

If you insist on more magnification, Weaver 3-15x50 is your best option in this price range:

ILya
Plus 1 for the Weaver 3-15x50 EMDR FFP mil mil. I own that scope and it's a winner. I have a review on it in the Range Report and Reviews forums if you'd like to take a look. As long as it holds up over time it's a great scope. So far it's been more than you could ask for, for the money.
 
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