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Hey guys just wanted know about redfield scopes.  A guy at work talks them up BIG TIME and I just wanted to know if he knows what hes talkin about or not.  Didnt mention any specifics.  Thanks
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I have two of them and they are ok.  I have one on a .223 and one on a .17HMR.  I like my 4200 better.
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Redfield used to be pretty decent scopes for their time up until about 20 years ago.  Since then, production of Redfield scopes have been an on and off situation.  Currently, there is no production of Redfield brand scopes.  The brand is now owned by Meade Instruments (who also owns Simmons and Weaver), who says they plan to launch a new Redfield line during this year.  However, Meade doesn't have a very good reputation for quality.  They tend to try to sell products on price.
 
I would personally avoid any products offered by Meade myself, because they change so much, there's little assurance that they will even be around later if you need service.  Plus, like so many other companies, they tend to outsource most of their production to China.  There are so many good, reasonably priced alternatives, such as the Elite 4200 Tip69 mentions, that I wouldn't even consider a new Redfield scope these days.
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I think Ted is on the money. There may be a glimmer of hope down the road as Chris Farris points out regarding Meade and Simmons. The same may happen to the great name of Redfield. I hope so.
 
"The founders of Simmons came from tasco and had learned the ins and outs of the business first hand.  Much like tasco, Simmons offered the consumer a diverse line of products spanning low end Wal-Mart junk up to mid-high end quality products.
 
Once the company was purchased by investment bankers that had no clue which end of the scope to look through, things really went down hill in a hurry.  They took the marque products and cheapened them significantly by going to different factories.  Then they would offer distributors these already established products at 50% and they sold huge quantities.  The distributors and dealers were not aware that the product was not the same as they had previously bought until the consumers started bringing them back.  Well you can only do that one time per model.  First they killed the 44-Mag, then the Aetec by doing this "bait and switch" tactic.  Then just prior to the Simmons name being Mud, they sold the company to some unsuspecting recipient that just looked at their financial statement and saw that the company was very profitable, but what they did not know was that profit came at a huge cost.  This happened a few more times and finally word was out and the chain was finally broken when Meade purchased Simmons.  They pretty much discontinued everything and reinvented the products from the ground up with U.S. engineers and set up their own factories to build the new products.  Production delays and a large learning curve have delayed their progress, the products that are coming in now that are Meade engineered are very good.   Once they get all the products to market we will see a rebirth of Simmons.
 
Meade also purchased Weaver and Redfield under the same circumstances and is in the process of turning these companies around too.
 
Coincidently we may currently be witnessing the beginning of the cycle with Bushnell/tasco as they were recently sold......to investment bankers."
 


Edited by tahqua - January/29/2008 at 10:44
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