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Poll Question: if you had to chose one centerfire cal. for all hunting
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just pick the one that you would use if you could only have one rifle
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not to be a dick but i voted for other cause some of the best all around calibers werent listed, 25-06 7mm mag .280 .260
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Other...........................no 7mm?

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Definately would come down to a 6.5mm or 7mm option for me.
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Based on 35 years of hunting experience, I voted for the 300 Win.......For that matter, any 300 magnum,,,,from Winchester, Weatherby, the RUM,  RSAM`s, reloaded properly, with the right bullet, (from 110 gr. to 240 gr.), can be used successfully on any game from small varmits to elephants!!!.....There simply is,,A NO BETTER, a more well balanced, a more all-round bullet compromise and versatility, in any other caliber, for world wide, one caliber hunting!!!!!!!..........Not on your list, and when compared to the longer mags, even though there is some velocity loss using 200gr. and heavier bullets, the 300 WSM, would make an excellent one gun choice as well. The .338 Winny and the 30-06, I would rate a very close tie for 2nd place................... Big Squeeze!
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I voted for the .300 as well, unless the overwhelming majority of my hunting was for larger beasts like brown bears, in which case, I'd go for the .338 Win Mag.  If I lived in Africa, it would be a different story -- In that case, i'd probably select a .416 of some persuasion.
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i own 2 of the 300's and i love them to death, they are a little harsh on coyotes if you keep the hides as me and my bro in law tend to do, so i would steer away from the 300's for that use but for the other stuff bring it on baby! love those 300's!! both of mine are in brownings and they both are tremendously accurate moa or less in both cases with handloads. i still favor a lighter round 6.5mm-7mm for kids and ladies but for me 300's are my bread and butter.
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Of the cartridges listed, I had to go with 300 win mag.  But, if I had a choice for a global cartridge, it would be a Wby. 300 mag., only if allowed to use it to shoot all African animals.  Unfortunately, the bigger game is limited to .375 and up, but the 300 would be up to the task.  Limited to North America, I would strongly consider the 270 Wby. mag.
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my bad forgeting the 7 mag. its a great cailber just a little big for my part of the country,so sorry aboout that one
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to big for your part of the country??? unless you live in a state that only permits hunting with shotguns, the 7mag isnt to big at all load it up with some 140 grain bullets and slow it down a little and you have a 7-08 or a .280 on steroids.

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Originally posted by Big Squeeze Big Squeeze wrote:

...I voted for... any 300 magnum... on any game from small varmits to elephants... There simply is,,A NO BETTER, a more well balanced, a more all-round bullet compromise and versatility, in any other caliber, for world wide, one caliber hunting...

 

I'm not trying to start a fight here but, I don't buy it.  Hunting for big, dangerous game like elephants requires bullets of at least .375 caliber. Not that smaller calibers are incapable of the task but, local legal restrictions do not allow for them.  So, if you want one-gun, worldwide hunting, you're going to have to step it up a bit.

 

Aside from that, there is nothing that a .300+ Magnum is going to kill that can't be killed equally dead and just as easily with smaller calibers (e.g. the fast 6.5mm and 7mm calibers) that are easier to shoot more accurately due to reduced recoil and muzzle blast and which also generally offer better ballistic coefficients and sectional densities.

 

My family for example, has used .264 Win Mags for about 4 decades almost exclusively to take just about every big game animal possible in North America including bull elk & moose and even a couple of Alaskan Brown bears.  Now, I realize that the .264 Win Mag is pretty much a dead caliber anymore so; it may not be a particularly good choice for anyone except perhaps a dedicated handloader but, the 7mm Rem Mag is very similar ballistically and is readily available.

 

Heavy .300+ Magnum calibers with their huge case capacities may be all the rage but, that's due more to an American obsession with the age-old (yet flawed) principle of  "bigger always = better"  than to any actual/demonstrable superiority in game-stopping ability.

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yeah i live in ohio and hunt deer in kentucky so a 7 mag is a little bigger for me since im 16 i go more for a 30-30 or my 7.62x54R i really dont need a 7 so i like smaller calibers myself,i can shoot them better since im a small guy
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and i kinda disagree with the .300 choice because i tend to lean toward the jaco o'connor therory of smaller faster so a .270 or 7mm-08 is proubly better for everything in my opion and i wasnt including africa since i made that another poll
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Originally posted by lucznik lucznik wrote:

Originally posted by Big Squeeze Big Squeeze wrote:

...I voted for... any 300 magnum... on any game from small varmits to elephants... There simply is,,A NO BETTER, a more well balanced, a more all-round bullet compromise and versatility, in any other caliber, for world wide, one caliber hunting...

 

I'm not trying to start a fight here but, I don't buy it.  Hunting for big, dangerous game like elephants requires bullets of at least .375 caliber. Not that smaller calibers are incapable of the task but, local legal restrictions do not allow for them.  So, if you want one-gun, worldwide hunting, you're going to have to step it up a bit.

 

Aside from that, there is nothing that a .300+ Magnum is going to kill that can't be killed equally dead and just as easily with smaller calibers (e.g. the fast 6.5mm and 7mm calibers) that are easier to shoot more accurately due to reduced recoil and muzzle blast and which also generally offer better ballistic coefficients and sectional densities.

 

My family for example, has used .264 Win Mags for about 4 decades almost exclusively to take just about every big game animal possible in North America including bull elk & moose and even a couple of Alaskan Brown bears.  Now, I realize that the .264 Win Mag is pretty much a dead caliber anymore so; it may not be a particularly good choice for anyone except perhaps a dedicated handloader but, the 7mm Rem Mag is very similar ballistically and is readily available.

 

Heavy .300+ Magnum calibers with their huge case capacities may be all the rage but, that's due more to an American obsession with the age-old (yet flawed) principle of  "bigger always = better"  than to any actual/demonstrable superiority in game-stopping ability.

 

That logic could be applied to just about any any caliber for one reason or another.  The bottom line, is that the .30 caliber magnums meets a fine medium when it comes to hunting any game of any size on the North American continent without any worry at all.  Excellent bullet selection, with good BCs, the ability to take long distance shots if necessary (consider a living off of the land scenario and that is what is needed), down loading for smaller game with light weight bullets, but having the power to down a grizzly at any distance.  Make mine a 300 Wby. in a Mark V and make sure it has Made in America on it and if you can, have Ed Weatherby sign it.  Oh, the 7mm mag is not ballistically similar, that is why they make different calibers. 



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Originally posted by Jackson Jackson wrote:

and i kinda disagree with the .300 choice because i tend to lean toward the jaco o'connor therory of smaller faster so a .270 or 7mm-08 is proubly better for everything in my opion and i wasnt including africa since i made that another poll

jack o connor killed more good cartrides in his day than he should have, the .270 is only as popular as it is because its all he ever wrote about,  imo .308 cal rifles are hard to beat in north america on large game, to much variations to load, its like saying the 3x9 scope isnt  popular.

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One more thing, this recoil buisness.  Some people are not as sensitive to recoil as others.  I am a stout 240 pounds and I have not had any problem shooting accurate groups at the range with any rifle up to my custom rifle, based on a 98 Mauser action, with a McGowen barrel in a 340 Wby. magnum.  No, I do not have a problem flinching.  Now, if you do have a problem with recoil, there are ways to help reduce it, but flinching frequently is going to occur at most calibers producing more recoil than a .22 lr, but obviously gets worse as the recoil increases.
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pyro6999, I have got to get up to Minnesota, where I was born, so we can have a beer and go feral hog hunting.
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feral hogs in minnesota???? not that im aware of??? beer on the other hand you bet!!

i tip the scales in your neigborhood as well and recoil doesnt bother me, i shoot the heavy hitters way better than the light weights and i think its because i am so use to getting pounded that i shoot the little ones thinking its coming and it doesnt so my accuracy isnt a good with say my 22-250 which imo is odd

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I thought you guys had hogs up there?
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not that im aware of lots of deer though
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yeah see im alot smaller then you guys thats why i probly go for the samller cailbers to,im 5'5 and maybe 150 now lol so you boys can have your .300's i'll stick to my 30-30 and slug gun for deer hunting
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30.06 will kill anything on this planet - with up to 240 grn bullets available, and all the way down to tiny varmint bullets.

 

i think this one takes the cake for versatility.

 

and it's good for 800 yards or better if the gun and marksman are up for it.

 

that's my vote. it's timeless. but i love my 30/30 too.

 

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i agree with you jonbravado 30-06 is probly the best all around caliber,i like others but a 30-06 is timeless, and the 30-30 is a classic you have to love it
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Mr. Lucznik...........The post subject here is......ONE caliber for ALL hunting! ALL hunting, I assume, means varmits to elephants and everything in between. The 30 caliber will give the best balance for that and therefore, I will kindly disagree with you!..... YES! You do need a minimum .375 for the African big stuff. However in the past, with the right bullet, elephants have been taken down with less power than a 300 magnum!...A 220 gr. FMJ steel bullet, well placed, will down an elephant and a caped buffalo.....I have read a number of articles, recent and otherwise, where the authors, with special permission, have used the 30`s for elephants and buffalos..........The .264 Win. is a great flat shooting, North American/African, varmit to thinned skinned big game cartridge, but is quite light for the buffalo or the elephant and therefore cannot complete the ENTIRE hunting spectrum as well as the .30 cal. can!.....
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actually if you compare sectional density on the .264win mag and that of the 300winmag you get way more bang for the buck with a .264, 120 gr .264 equals roughly a 180gr .308 coming out of the 300win step up to a 140 gr .264 now you are talking about a 200 gr .308 so do you reallly gain anything between one case or another in this situation??  not really.the 6.5mms hits very hard with less recoil which is good for those who dont care for recoil 6.5x55 is a great choice for women and kids as well as the recoil conscious fellows. i have shot a few .264 win mag and i currently own a 6.5 rem mag and even those magnum calibers a very mild compared to my 300's jack o conner gets my vote in the blame game for  the lack of popularity in this nation towards 6.5's its his fault that none of them were ever a success and especially the .264 win mag which i think is the best bang for the buck in the belted magnum family, and only because roy weatherby never chambered his own.
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