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338LAPUASLAP
Optics Master Scope Swapper Joined: October/17/2009 Status: Offline Points: 2596 |
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Getting to the range is the problem.
Hitting a static target is one thing at any distance. Hitting a moving target or one under circumstances totally different. Try hitting a golf ball at 200 yards with a 22lr while it is still moving. Or one of the super Uber targets at the box store that self heals while it is still moving. I do understand some ranges don't like that... If they have a plinking range a cambels soup can at 200 while it sways or try breaking the string on a weighted target. These are a few of my favorite things... I do have a distain for 95% of the people at the range achieving said or forementioned targets. Give me some old timers that have faced the service end of a rifle. As far as groups. I hate to say it what was mentioned in the above post is most of what is seen at the range. I want to shoot with the guy that leaves when I get their. He is respectful and usually a 4am riser. Who knows... I understand the post. I am afraid that is our society now. Beating yourself is the best part of it to me. I don't need to practice for beating the other guy. NEVER Did as far as who can hit the X on paper One time for the other, but not now. The ones thst are trying to compare who's is better or bigger or more accurate(wrong) precise. Well, you win. As for me I want to be found with the KB's and RC's and the ST's and the BF's etc. Oh yeah and ILyas when the stuff goes down... Give me a warrior and leave the braggers. ILya I'll make sure you don't have to rely on your off hand...j/k |
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Kickboxer
MODERATOR Moderator Joined: February/13/2008 Status: Offline Points: 23679 |
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I bet you are one of those anal types who checks weight and dimensions of every bullet... sign me up, I want to be on your team...
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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.
There are some who do not fear death... for they are more afraid of not really living |
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Steelbenz
Optics Jedi Knight ROLL TIDE ROLL Joined: January/03/2006 Location: Heart of Dixie Status: Offline Points: 5153 |
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This is how I spend most of my time at the range, introducing new people to the sport.
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"Don't argue with a fool! From a distance you can't really tell who's who!"
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Kickboxer
MODERATOR Moderator Joined: February/13/2008 Status: Offline Points: 23679 |
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I want THIS:
I would seriously consider selling all my other guns if I could get this with my Ivey mount with the Hensoldt 6-24x72. It's not just nostalgia... with the proper ammo, this truly IS the most accurate non-electrically fired rifle ever built. I love this rifle. First time I ever picked it up, it FIT... never felt anything like it before or since. "I fear a cage...to stay behind bars, until use and old age accept them, and all chance of doing great deeds is gone beyond recall or desire.” I'm feeling caged these days... I feel the need...
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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.
There are some who do not fear death... for they are more afraid of not really living |
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tahqua
MODERATOR Have You Driven A Ford Lately? Joined: March/27/2006 Location: Michigan, USA Status: Offline Points: 9042 |
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I generally shoot 3-5 3 shot groups when checking my hunting rifles for the coming hunts. I sometimes post a couple of the groups here. But I don't wank about it.
I don't have a problem with most the folks that show up at the club for sighting in days, either. At least they are checking their guns for zero. There are a lot of people that don't bother. I also get a kick out of 30-30's with 4-12 scopes in high see through mounts.....maybe that is a Michigan thing
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Peddler
Optics God Joined: July/04/2012 Location: Oswego,NY Status: Offline Points: 13526 |
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Nope it’s “ Woodchuck “ redneck kinda thing. |
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When you are dead, you don't know you are dead.It is difficult only for others.
It is the same when you are stupid. |
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Bigdaddy0381
MODERATOR Georgia peach Joined: February/27/2007 Location: Georgia Status: Offline Points: 13682 |
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RC not meaning to steal the thread/ or group.
This is some random pics from the 4H BB season. If you want to brush up or train your self to shoot and do it very cheap.. well you know how that work out cheap is relative. Try these 4 positions and do them as stated in the 4H hand book http://www.georgia4h.org/safe/disciplines/bb.htm. prone, standing, sitting , kneeling @ 5 meters with a daisy 499 BB gun with the regulation sites and targets. Its like hitting the eraser end of a pencil at 5 meters. when you can do 10 of 10 then you will impress me. LOL. Here is some pics. and yes THANK YOU TO SWFA and all of our sponsors. were able to pay for all the matches entry fees and was even able to help a few shooters who couldn't afford the guns be able to shoot. So... THANK YOU..... a few pic's. prone sitting standing i was not able to make the match above as I had to work. it was there state match and one of the other coaches help my son. I also did not get the kneeling pic sent to me. here is a few randoms. This was the prep for kneeling at another match. My son has the hoodie on. It was a tad cold This is prone practice and training him to use his trigger finger only and not roll the rifle. one of his targets. he is improving each practice. Then when you get a tad older..lol You can do 1000 yard shots off the back of a suburban when its 30 degrees and raining. 10 shots in 90 seconds and different ranges from 300 to 1000 on this one. I have the hat on. The guy in front of me Is Justin. he Owns spinners in Mich. he is a hell of a rifle builder. I forgot to add the sponsor shirts and logos... the folks who pay the billis and help the ones who can't. this is the unsung hero in my books. Edited by Bigdaddy0381 - May/21/2018 at 07:30 |
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Rancid Coolaid
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Bigdaddy, you made my point much better than did I! Practice is what it's about, improving one's skill set. I am all for that, in its many forms. Most who have chimed in on this will freely admit that they shoot to be a better shot. The thread, in its intent, was to push those not in that category at least toward that category Perhaps my problem is that I enjoy shooting more than I enjoy people. Especially the wankers.
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Freedom is something you take.
Respect is something you earn. Equality is something you whine about not being given. |
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Bigdaddy0381
MODERATOR Georgia peach Joined: February/27/2007 Location: Georgia Status: Offline Points: 13682 |
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I do agree when I hit the range for the load testing and just to get trigger time the mall snipers are everywhere with all the new aged stuff. none of them can answer a simple question. like, what twist dose that barrel have? or is it left twist or right? I have also noticed ALL of them can shoot 1/4 MOA off bags front and rear. Have them move from that position and the gun starts to mess up and they can't even hit the back stop much less the target.
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Scrumbag
Optics Master Extraordinaire Joined: October/22/2013 Location: London, UK Status: Offline Points: 4205 |
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Where I shoot we do a little club competition called the
stalkers test:
2 x prone 2 x sitting (with twin sticks) 2 x kneeling (with sticks) 2 x standing (with sticks) 2 x sitting at the bench (free hand, this is used as a proxy
for a high seat position) Shot at 100 yds. If you want to see where you are weak, this will show it up (Kneeling always gets me, the best technique is usually to put the sticks under the forend, 1 knee down, 1 knee up, elbow supported on 1 knee and butt on your heel. Sadly, I have ridiculously tight quads so cannot sit on my heels and my shots are a lottery). Scrummy |
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Was sure I had a point when I started this post...
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BeltFed
Optics Retard Joined: February/12/2008 Location: Ky Status: Offline Points: 22284 |
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I can't let this thread die. I think there is a lot to be said here. I didn't even touch a trigger this past weekend, which is very unusual for me. I had 2 3-gun matches I could have gone to, or I could have spent a relaxing morning shooting golf balls with a .22 until they were out of sight, but I had to much work to do. I also just didn't feel like shooting for some unknown reason () Ammo is expensive, even if you reload, and while just going through the motions of shooting doesn't hurt, the learning experience isn't as great, and the results could be discouraging. Now after working my arse off, I may be more inclined to squeeze a trigger on a firearm next weekend instead of the trigger on a weed eater. |
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Life's concerns should be about the 120lb pack your trying to get to the top of the mountain, and not the rock in your boot.
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BeltFed
Optics Retard Joined: February/12/2008 Location: Ky Status: Offline Points: 22284 |
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Competition is a great motivator for practice. When I was shooting the KCR assault rifle match, I would start practicing 2 months before the match. A lot of dry firing during the week combined with cardio training, and live on the weekend. I always did quite well. Same with pistol matches; dry fire and live fire practice usually yields better results than using the match for practice.
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Life's concerns should be about the 120lb pack your trying to get to the top of the mountain, and not the rock in your boot.
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Scrumbag
Optics Master Extraordinaire Joined: October/22/2013 Location: London, UK Status: Offline Points: 4205 |
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Very right BF, I'm not sure how many times I (dry) "shot" the light switch across my living / dining room in Geneva with my P226 but it was a lot!
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Was sure I had a point when I started this post...
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koshkin
MODERATOR Dark Lord of Optics Joined: June/15/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13181 |
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Where I live dry fire is a little involved. The way my house is situated, it is difficult to orient myself in a such a way that I am pointing in the safe direction and noone can see me.
Many years ago I had a negligent discharge inside my apartment, so I am a little paranoid. I set-up a makeshift airgun range in the warehouse in my office, so I can practice with an air pistol. There, I basically do Olympic-style ten meter shooting with a simple single shot airgun. I use FAS 6004 which is inexpensive, quiet and very accurate. This is mostly a trigger control drill, since I shoot this airgun single handed and from a different position that I sue for cetnerfires. However, it is still good practice and at this stage my accuracy is about the same with either hand which I am pretty happy about. I might start shooting my air rifle there as well. The distance is short, but I can always make a smaller target. ILya
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Lockjaw
Optics Journeyman Joined: May/17/2016 Location: Chelsea Status: Offline Points: 434 |
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This is at 50 yards, and I am dang proud of it. 1971 Marlin 30-30 with its stock lovliness trigger. And no lead sled either. |
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Scrumbag
Optics Master Extraordinaire Joined: October/22/2013 Location: London, UK Status: Offline Points: 4205 |
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That'll do nicely! Now, go get some venison!
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Was sure I had a point when I started this post...
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Lockjaw
Optics Journeyman Joined: May/17/2016 Location: Chelsea Status: Offline Points: 434 |
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I broke the scope last season, and it was gone most of hunting season. Leupold to their credit repaired free of charge, and I got it back, but haven't sighted in the gun. I can't be using my good ammo up, I think I only have a couple boxes left. I need to hunt for some more, because it loves that Hog Hammer.
I wish I could get the trigger tuned on it. It's not great. |
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