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I have a question for the scope guru's.  I have a Redfield Wideview 3-9x40 on a 243.  It is probably 40 years old at least.
I was considering changing this scope for either a Nikon Primos or a Bushnell Elite 4200.  Would this be an upgrade?
I have heard both sides as to which would be better, thought I would get some more opinions. 
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what gun is going on? how much do you wanna spend ,and yes either one of those two scopes would be an upgrade.
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It is a Remington 700 ADL in 243.  I would probably like to keep the cost around $300.  I know that isn't a lot in the world of scopes, but it is what I have to deal with.
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Yes, it certainly would be an upgrade!!  Today's scopes would be an optical upgrade from stuff made in the eighties, and even the ninties, just due to the terrific fully multi-coated lenses these days................
 
Nowadays, you just have to pick one out that doesn't fall apart or break!!! .....apparently THAT ancient, antiquated technology has gotten lost somewhere along the timeline of history..........
 
The old scopes from the old days will still work like they always did---but the new ones are quite bright.....
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for the money a team primos is an excellent scope i have one and i like it. i also have a 4200 elite, good scope also. the sightron sII is another good choice.
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Either would be an upgrade.  Just curious, did they make 40mm objectives back then?  Thought most were 32 back in the 60's!  My 1970's Weaver 4x was a 32mm and seems like most were this size. 
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i think the wideviews were 40mm which is why they called them "wideviews"
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I will double check that it is 40, maybe it isn't.  The wideview also had to do with the ocular lens being shaped almost like an old TV tube, it was wider than tall, not round. 
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yeah, they looked like a oval like the  track at indy
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I have about 8 of those old Redfields. Mine are from the 80's mostly, or some 70's maybe. They are actually quite clear and bright for what they are. Not that any of them is in the same caliber as my Conquest, or Nikons, but Compared to lesser "bargain" priced scopes, I would take the Redfield. Compared to my brothers Winchester labeled scope (3-9x50) I would take my dinosour Redfield any day. I agree though that any QUALITY name brand scope will out run any of the old Redfields.
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They had tons of 40 mm scopes in the old days......they even had 4X40 scopes in the late 50s.   Weaver did not have a 40mm objective on their K6 until 1963.  Up till that time they were 32mm.   Redfield's 3X9 Bear Cub was 40mm from the day it was introduced in 1962. 
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I double checked and it measures 40mm at the objective lens opening, the lens it probably closer to 36.  Don't know if they made a 36mm or not.  I would probably want to upgrade the mount/rings too...which are a good option for a Remington 700? 

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I have had good luck with Warne rings along with Weaver bases.
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I have had good luck with Talley Lightweights. The Warne setup is quite popular as well though.
 
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The new Redfields were made in Japan with better optics.The Redfield name was bought by Leupold.My favorite was the Ultimate Illuminator 30mm tube 56 objective.That was a good scope built like a tank.
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I have an old Redfield 1.75X5 that has never been mounted on a rifle.  A good friend gave it to me and said it was 35years old at least.  It has the box and all of the papers. 
 
It's a neat old scope, and I plan to put it on a quality .22 on day. 
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