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I am looking at getting either the Bushnell elite 4200 4-16x40 or the ss10x40/ss16x40, but do not have access to compare them, that is why I ask you all. The yardage will be 300-600 mostly but I defiantly want to shoot at 100 yard targets frequently. I don't like the price of the Bushnell but if it can be justified, I might want to pay it. I like the ss but a fixed 10x worries me at 600, and a fixed 16x worries me at 100. I also like the 30mm tube of the ss but I dont want that to limit my choices too dramatically because of the price range . I like the magnification variability of the Bushnell and how much praise its little 3-9x brother has gotten. I do not think (correct me if I am wrong) that the 3-9x has parallax adjustment though, so I am kinda passing that one up. I have heard great things about both and my budget it as tight as I can get it. If anyone can give me a reason to pay the extra for the 4200, or have another suggestion, it would be greatly appreciated.

Also, what kind of weaver style bases and rings are people shooting?
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Whar rifle are you putting it on? It does matter. 
 
You stated you were worried about 10x in the SS at 600, so the 3-9 should be eliminated automatically.  The SS is not a close range hunting scope, so if that is a part of the equation, it is the wrong scope.  It is for longer range shooting.  Don't forget, 10x was the "standard" for sniper scopes for many years.  At shorter ranges, you will not be able to acquire the target as quickly, which is bad if hunting "fast moving" creatures.  If you are not shooting below 100, the SS will be very good for you.  Glass is very good and it has plenty of adjustment range.  10x is plenty good for 600yd.  If you are target shooting and don't intend to hunt, the SS 16X would be outstanding.  FOV at 100yd would be ~8-9ft.  Good enough for target shooting, but not very good for quick acquisition close in.   
However, it is always good to have a little extra magnification, just in case.  The Bushnell Elite is fine for your stated purposes, but is limited in MOA adjustment for longer ranges.  You can overcome that (mostly) with a rail, but then may have some trouble with a 100yd zero.   You can shoot at 100, just a little more work in some cases.  Some depends on what you are mounting to.  Glass on the Elite is very good, on the two Elites I have used, clicks were solid.  To me, the Elite is a better hunting scope that can be used for target shooting. 
 
Rings and bases...once again, much depends on what you are putting it on, but I like Warne and Talley detachables and I also like the Millet Angle-Locs. 
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I am a believer that any of these will do for target shooting. Kicker has pointed out some other considerations for you though. If you intend to do the hunting thing then the Bushnell is the choice for doing both. I really like the SS 10x it's a fine scope with good glass and at 10x it can also hunt. Be mindful that anything 50 yards in will be a tough shot though. Remember one of the most important things in target shooting at longer ranges is the reticle and your understanding of how it is used.
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Whar rifle are you putting it on? It does matter. 
 
You stated you were worried about 10x in the SS at 600, so the 3-9 should be eliminated automatically.  The SS is not a close range hunting scope, so if that is a part of the equation, it is the wrong scope.  It is for longer range shooting.  Don't forget, 10x was the "standard" for sniper scopes for many years.  At shorter ranges, you will not be able to acquire the target as quickly, which is bad if hunting "fast moving" creatures.  If you are not shooting below 100, the SS will be very good for you.  Glass is very good and it has plenty of adjustment range.  10x is plenty good for 600yd.  If you are target shooting and don't intend to hunt, the SS 16X would be outstanding.  FOV at 100yd would be ~8-9ft.  Good enough for target shooting, but not very good for quick acquisition close in.   
However, it is always good to have a little extra magnification, just in case.  The Bushnell Elite is fine for your stated purposes, but is limited in MOA adjustment for longer ranges.  You can overcome that (mostly) with a rail, but then may have some trouble with a 100yd zero.   You can shoot at 100, just a little more work in some cases.  Some depends on what you are mounting to.  Glass on the Elite is very good, on the two Elites I have used, clicks were solid.  To me, the Elite is a better hunting scope that can be used for target shooting. 
 
Rings and bases...once again, much depends on what you are putting it on, but I like Warne and Talley detachables and I also like the Millet Angle-Locs. 
 
 
Seems dead on !!
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Wow! Thank you for the quick responses and so much information. I will not be using it for hunting at all I think so that does not need to be factored into anything. sorry for not stating that in my original post. I believe now that the ss 16x is what I will go for.

The only thing I am still confused about is bases and rings. It seems like they are all pretty such the same. I like the look of the Warne rings, Burris siganture Zee (heard good things), and the Burris Xtreme Tactical (again, heard good things). So just a little more guidance on this subject and this topic can die.

Again thank you for the info, it helps a lot towards a decision.
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I can't figure out how to edit posts here, so just forget my previous post. I will look in the rings and bases section of the forum (never saw it till just now) instead of here for my answer. Thanks for the responses though.
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I would suggest the Warne rings.  Most of my guns have them.
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and I really like them.  They hold up well.
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