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My first post Excellent

Just found this great looking forum, and hope to learn alot from everyone. 

I need opinions on Bushnell binoculars I might be buying, specifically the Sportview wide angle 10X50, they look to be late model, prob early 90's. No rubber coating, waterproofing, etc, just a basic set of binoculars. 

Any thoughts?

Thanks!!

Greg
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Well, welcome to OT.
 
Those are overall a pretty poor bionocular IMHO.  Why don't you tell us what you wnat to use the binoculars for and what kind of money you can spend.  You can get very good, inexpensive binoculars, or you can always get cheap crap.  So this is a pretty good place to avoid the latter and find the former.
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Klamath, thank you for the reply!
 
I only ask about the Bushnells because it's a name I recognize. What about them makes it a poor pair of binocs? I am just starting out and need a good pair of binocs. I will be using them at the ballpark, beach, and hiking. Probably have less than $100 to spend. I like the full sized bino's over the compact ones. Zoom is not a feature I would want, or is it? Would I see a big difference between a 10x or a 12x? 

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I would probably go with this:

or this:

It may be counterintuitive, but sometimes less is more.

In your general price range, that is the configuration I would choose.

ILya


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I would get the little yosemite in your price range as well.  As a matter of fact,  I just purchased a pair for my son.  Nice little bins and 6x is really quite useful.
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Originally posted by Blackpaw Blackpaw wrote:

Klamath, thank you for the reply!
 
I only ask about the Bushnells because it's a name I recognize. What about them makes it a poor pair of binocs? I am just starting out and need a good pair of binocs. I will be using them at the ballpark, beach, and hiking. Probably have less than $100 to spend. I like the full sized bino's over the compact ones. Zoom is not a feature I would want, or is it? Would I see a big difference between a 10x or a 12x? 

Thanks again for getting back to me!

greg
Bushnell is mostly their own worst enemy.  They produce far too much "bubble wrap crap".  When they got the Bausch&Lomb label under their umbrella, the old B&L ELite went to Bushnell ELite and I think pretty much went away because of the perception of tieing Bushnell and cheap together.  Again that is mostly Bushnell's own fault, IMO.  Mostly the Sportview line is just "cheap".
 
The Yosemites and Raptors are fine glass at their price point, I have or have had both and they are very good.  What I would suggest is to see if yopu can free up some $200.  Then you can get a really decent, serviceable binocular.  What I would suggest is either a Vortex Diamondback, A Zen Ray ZRS, or a Theron Wapiti HQ.  For somewhat less than that there is the Atlas Radian or the Zen Ray Vista, both around $130 or so.  Actually, since Bushnell is a topic, the Bushnell Excursion and Excursion EX aren't too bad at their price levels either.
 
For general purpose handheld use, I would not go over 10x.  12x usually has to image shake, as magnification also magnifies the movement within the field of view, as well as the size of the objects in the field of view.  You start to get into a more specialized use arena when you get above 10x and this mostly requires the binocular be mounted on a tripod in order to get really steady to enable you to get the benefit of the magnification increase.  Personally, if I'm going that way, I'd likely go 15x.  So for general all around use, I'd say you have a good chance of actually seeing less with 12x, not more, when comparing to a 10x in general handheld use, which sounds like where you are heading.


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Thank for all the info!! Howdy How do the Nikon Action Extreme binos compare to the Bushnells? 

Thanks again!

Greg
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The Action Extremes are much better optically than the Bushnells you originally referenced. In general you get much better optical performance from porro prism binoculars in comparison to roof prism models at any given price point. Or, if you like, you typically have to pay 2x to 3x the cost of a porro to get equivalent optical performance in a roof prism model.
 
The only negative to this particular model is that they tend to be bulkier and heavier than a similar roof prism model.
 
Those Bushnell Excursions, Zen Ray Vistas and a few others are very good optically for the price. There are also some clearance roof prism models out there you may want to also consider. I just ordered a phase coated, silver prism coated 8x42 for $30 off a very popular online website. They had a similar model in the 8x32 configuration for the same price the last time I checked.
 
Hope this helps.
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