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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/28/2004 at 01:20
Jeff Burch View Drop Down
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Greetings from Idaho...


I was all set to mount a stainless vxii on my new M70 camo/stainless shadow (300wsm) when I found this site.  I was SET on leupy, I mean scope in hand taking it down to get rings/boresighted.  Now I think for the extra $100 I will return the unopened VX!! and get a 4200 elite w/o firefly. The local hunter hangout stocks the 3200 w/ firefly and the first impression is that the reticle is very thick- almost distracting. The thinnest part is only the last 1/4 (or less?) and is almost an "opening" in the site picture.  Sorry to rip it -I suppose you'd get used to it. and after a few minutes I was starting to.  The leupy has gobs of eye relief, but I used an old burris with almost none to take my first big game, a muley with a 7 mag this fall (4x4) He was with 7 does  100 yards broadside at a trot. He hopped up & I didn't have time to adjust from 6x or to get a rest but it was a H&L shot that dropped him in 2 lopes...sorry off on a brag tangent, back to the scopes


Both have good bright glass but I like the elite over the leupy for the extra range of magnification, and the eyepiece is more of a euro type -plus I could/will get the matching Legend yardage pro and 10x42 binos. a complete optics package


Wether I get a 4200 with FF or not is still up in the air the questions I have are:


Would Bushnells standard reticle dissappear to the point that you would feel unsure about the shot placement during legal hrs. (30 min before/after here in Idaho for big game and no electric/batteries in the gun/scope) and would this extra help during that time outweigh "putting up" with a doubly thick xhair during daylight hrs.-- My "surgical strike" was at 2:30 partly cloudy


Could the 3200 firefly been an older model with a first gen. thicker xhair and the new ones are thinner?  Some posts have said they aren't bad but c'mon these things look like matchsticks


Does the 4200 have a different type of finish matte than the 3200, It seemed to but I was looking mostly at the firefly 32 at the time and it seemed to show fingernail (ect.) marks in the matte  the Burris FF2 does it worse I think.


And Last, Does anyone have a preference for mounts on a M70 wsm


Great forum & I apologize for such a long-winded and boastful first post


Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/15/2005 at 13:27
Chris Farris View Drop Down

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Congrats on harvesting your first big game.  Sorry to take so long to answer but its been really busy around here.  You may have already bought a scope but I will still take a stab at answering your questions.


Bushnell's standard reticle will not disappear during legal hunting hours.  I don't think the standard 4200 reticle is all that heavy and has never been a hindrance for me.


As far as I know the FireFly reticle thickness has never changed.  They were not designed to be long rang prairie dog scopes.  They are low light big game scopes.  Heavy reticles stand out a lot better in low light, this is the reason almost all European reticles are so heavy. 


The 3200 and 4200 use the same anodizing, the matte finish is semi rough and will show finger nail marks.  The scope has to be polished smooth to avoid this and then it becomes a gloss finish scope.


Leupold mounts will work fine for your 70 WSM.


If you already purchased a scope let us know what you got and how you like it.

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