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This is not a review, just my limited use opinions.
 I bought the Nitrex 3-15x42 TR2 scope with EBX reticle.  It is a nice scope with a nice clear crisp image.  The things I am satisfied with are:
1: Eye relief - Very nice as I can nearly get a full sight picture with my cheek on the buttpad.
2: Turrets - They are nice!  I love the design and funtion of the "pull up to turn" - "push down to lock" mechanism.
3: Nice clear image with good light gathering up to about 11 or 12 out of the 3-15 magnification power range. Could easily read the stop sign at the end of my road at 11 O'clock P.M. (230 Yards +/-) 
4: Side focus parralax is very nice and it does allow you to fine tune your focus at all ranges.
 
I dislike the following things:
1: The magnification does not seem accurate, 15x looks more like 10x,  11x looks more like 7x.
2: although the scope does have very nice eye relief, eye alignment is slightly critical.
3: There were no lens covers of any sort, no lens cloth, and little in the way of literature.
4: Although the glass is great in low light, its not clear enough for the Retail $$$ it normally sell's for.  I would have a hard time justifying the expense of this scope if not for the "claimed" ruggedness and other nice features that it does offer... the glass alone would not justify it.
5: The field of view is not all that I wanted. 
 
On a scale of 1-5 with 5 being the highest possible score, I would rate it at 2-3/4.  If the Magnification Range was correct I would put it at 3.5 out of 5. 
 
Overall this is a nice scope, but I may have to look at the Vortex Viper to see what it offers me in comparison for this price range.  If the magnification range seemed more accurate on this model, I would be more positive about it.  If this needs to be put in the review section then I apologize, but I dont think this is thourough enough to be called a "review"   
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I may have been a bit to hard on the initial score, I would prolly give it a 3 at this point and a 4 if the magnification were more on target.  Thinking       I need to take it to the range and see what I can do with it.   Once I do, I will try and post some pic's and info.

Robert.
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Can you verify the magnification with a different scope side by side?
I am considering getting this scope also.
Did you get the etched reticle (EBX) or the standard duplex style?
I appreciate your feedback, thanks for the "review".
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How do you find the eye positioning on this one?  I have one the same in a 50obj with the EBX and eye position is way to sensitive. 
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First, I have set it side by side with a Bushnell ScopeChief, BSA Sweet .22, KonusPro M-30, Vortex Crossfire, and a cheapy CenterPoint.  It does not seem to have the same magnification at any given power setting as do the other scopes.  I will be able to tell you alot more after tomorrow as it will head to the range for real testing.  The optics are crisp and edge to edge clarity is better than the other scopes that I have compared it to above.  As to what you were saying SVT, it is a bit quick to distort or black out if you do not have the required eye positioning.  Eye relief is GREAT on it, and I find the eye positioning not to affect me so much as relief so I am satisfied there.  I am just stumped about the perceived magnification issue.  I will snap pictures of all the scopes at the same power setting this Sat.  Mechanically I like this scope, the turrets are smooth (almost to smooth), and the side focus is wonderful.  Tomorrow will bring the real results. 
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This is the nicest glass I have ever purchased, could it be that the other cheaper scopes dont have as good of a measure of magnification?
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No.  the blackout issue you are talking about may be magnified tomorrow on the range.  I am curious if it does.  Going from prone to bench to freehand I had issues.
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Ok, took a look through a Leupold VX2 tonight and can say that the Nitrex is that good or better.  Looked through the Burris FFII 3-9x40 as well, and the Nitrex TR2 is as good or better again.  Maybe I am just expecting too much from this $$$ range of optics.  The magnification issue will be checked out in depth tomorrow if the weather will allow. 
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Being an owner of the same Nitrex scope as well as one of the TR2 4-20x50 SF, curious if your opinion on your magnification issue has changed?  I don't experience the same problem with mine.  As to quality of glass for clarity/brightness and etc., I've yet to have an owner of a higher end Leupold, Burris, Nikon, Sightron or even a Zeiss Conquest scope owner view thru either one of my Nitrex and tell me the Nitrex wasn't comparable to their glass.   All were very impressed with the Nitrex Glass.
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Sorry about the long delay, have had a house full of sick daughters and wife.  The nitrex has very clear and bright glass, and the side focus is very accurate.  As for the magnification range, it does appear underpowered to other scopes at the same setting, not more than 2x or so.  I was able to sight in with Radway Green at 25 yards with a .3 inch group.  At 100 yards I could not keep it better than 1.5 to 2 inches.  I shot two consecutive 4 shot groups just under an inch a piece using Federal Power-Shock 150 Grain SP.  Eye location is a bit critical, but not annoying or limiting in any way.  I like the scope, and it will stay atop the 700 tactical for now.  It might take a trip to the K-31 when I pick up a new optic though.  I had a long time reloader / competition shooter have a look through it, and he thought it was GREAT glass for what I paid. 

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Nitrex owners, what are the turrets like? Can you dial in elevation like a tactical/target knob?
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yeah they are nice.  the only think I like about mine so far has been the turrets
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Just out of curiosity, how did you determine that the magnification is not accurate?  This is not something that can be simply eyeballed.

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Every time I get a new scope I compare it to all the other scopes in my selection at varying magnifications. I have had the same concerns about magnification. Since all scopes have their own unique characteristics I have always chalked it up to that and not under or over powered magnification by the manufacturer. Am I being naive in believing the manufacturer's claims? Very interesting.

 

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Originally posted by Smileydawg1 Smileydawg1 wrote:

Every time I get a new scope I compare it to all the other scopes in my selection at varying magnifications. I have had the same concerns about magnification. Since all scopes have their own unique characteristics I have always chalked it up to that and not under or over powered magnification by the manufacturer. Am I being naive in believing the manufacturer's claims? Very interesting.

 


The fact the magnification of the two scopes looks different does not mean that it actually is.  Perception differences that depend on all sorts of other factors can play nasty tricks on you here.  Between two scopes of the same magnification, the one with smaller eyepiece might look like it has less magnification, ditto for the one with longer eyereleif, or with presence of some tunnel effect, or .... all sorts of other stuff.

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Another aspect that I just thought about would be if an 11x looks like a 7x and you somehow know this to be true. Would you still get the advantage of FOV at 7x? I have had my eye on a Nitrex TR Two 2-10x42mm and FOV is more important to me as a short range hunting scope. Thank You!

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