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I am saving up for a new spotter for shooting in the field not just off a bench at the range and was wondering if any one has good or bad things about the Prostaff. All the guys at the gun shop said it was one of the best for the coin but they said it is not really all that stellar. All but one said Swaro with the one saying Zeiss has just as good glass without the extra high cost. So, I am not sure if they want to sell me a spotter to make a higher profit or if they are being honest for a hole puncher and jug buster. They only sale Swaro, Zeiss, Nikon, Leupold and Brunton. No way I can afford 2k and up, it would take me 5 years. I am trying to stay in the $500 or so range.

And is the Prostaff kit worth the extra $25.
 
I compared the Prostaff to the Greenring and did not see any difference inside of course other than the Leu seemed to have better eye relief at 60x plus it is $100 or more cheaper. The Zeiss did seem better but for $1900? Never looked through a Swaro.
 
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I've not been too impressed with the Nikon Prostaff.  It seemed big, it's on-its-side design seemed awkward, the finder-eyepiece looks like the bridge component on some spaceship from Star Wars, and the optics just weren't anything to write home about.

The Prostaff doesn't seem to offer any real improvements over their now-discontinued Sky & Earth series (except for the addition of waterproofing) or their Spotter XL/XL II and yet it costs significantly more than the former and is quite a bit bigger than the latter.

I realize that your preferred gun-shop only sells a few brands but, there are other places to buy from. You may need to find a different local dealer, take a trip to a larger dealer in another town, or buy online from a reputable dealer that will offer you the opportunity to return a purchase should it prove unsatisfactory.

In the under-$500 range you might want to look at:
Nikon Spotter XLII
Leupold Gold Ring Compact
Bushnell Elite (60mm)
Vortex Nomad
Vortex Impact
Stokes Sandpiper
Kowa 600 series





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Stokes Sandpiper
Kowa 600 series
Leupold Gold Ring Compact


Either of these would fit the bill. Don't forget to budget for a decent tripod.
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Thanks, I am confused to say the least. I have always for years just went down and got a Leupold anything and never gave any thought to it but I guess Leu is not what I always thought they were in the optics world. My bud in Iraq did not like his Leu on his M24, changed to a Meopta and told me about SS. Now that I have a SS instead of Mark2 I saved money and got a better sight.

I always lumped Bushnell and Tasco optics as junk since my first scope I bought was a Tasco and bino / spotter were Bushnell; hazy with fog  1/4 way to center around the edges until they fogged up inside and broke.
 
Seems the Vortex gets many adda-boys here so I will give them a closer look. I buy local cause I like to support local guys and I can throw something in lay-a-way for 90 days, sometimes longer to help me budget for it. But tax refund will be coming soon so I may be able to go internet for a spotter purchase.
 
Ak means hunting and high dollar hunters and its all Swaro everywhere you go with Leu on the side with a few others for flavor and I have even seen NF on moose sticks. Sportsman Warehouse is our only retailer with selection.
 
Any more help would be thankful.
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Don't feel too badly for Leupold.  The company has a pretty enviable place in the optics world.  Last I heard, they sell more optics that most all others combined.  They are bright, clear, rugged, and pretty much everything they need to be.  Are there optics out there that "outperform" Leupolds?  Of course.  You will pay out the nose to get them however, and the differences (if any) will be slight.  The warranty on Leupold's Gold Ring products  (and the service that goes with it) is absolutely unequaled.
 
Tasco is owned by Bushnell and markets only very low end products.  You are wise to avoid them. 
 
Bushnell itself is kind of a "something for everyone" company.  They have offerings in the ultra-low, ultra-cheap realm, offerings in the middle of the pack, and they also have offerings that compete very well with some of the best products on the market.   Stick to their higher-end lines (Elite, Elite E2, Discoverer, Legend) and you'll do very well indeed.
 
Vortex is relatively new and untested as a company.  Yes, if you talk to those "in the know" they will tell you that the parent company has been in business for over 25 years and is totally solid but, Vortex itself still has yet to be truly proven in the marketplace.  On the other hand, their top-of-the-line Razor binocular is being very favorably compared to the best binoculars in the world so; how bad can they be, really?  No matter what anyone tells you, buying Vortex is a little bit of a gamble but, they do seem to be on the right track and as long as their service is good and they don't experience any major road blocks, they'll probably be around for a very long time.
 
High dollar hunters = high dollar EGOS.   Don't assume that just because they can afford the best, they did.  Much of what they are buying is brand prestige.  That little silver eagle is often as important to the owner as the optics themselves.  That's not to say Swarovski isn't producing fantastic products as they most certainly are.  However, you need not feel ashamed if you can't afford them.  Equal performance (if not prestige) can be had for less.


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