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I've got a fairly light 300 RUM and am wanting to put a little larger scope on it.  It currently has a 4x12 and I want to upgrade the scope and go a tad larger.  Maybe a 4x14 or 4x16.  Looking at the Monarch and curious to any feedback about how it will hold up on a fairly heavy recoiling rifle as well as quality, clarity, eye relief .....  Any better choices?  These seem to be pretty reasonably priced compared to most of the others in the category and quality level.  Just don't want to put something on this that won't hold up.
 
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It's an excellent scope for the money. I have but good experiences with them and find them dependable on harsh conditions, recoil or heavy bumps. However, i've read that there are people who have monarchs  that break on them. An alternative  suggestion in about the same price range would be the elite 4200, it has the rainguard, and from what i recall, i still haven,t heard from anyone who had the scope break down on them.Big Smile 
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I appreciate the response and I've thought about the 4200 but the drawback I see is the lesser eye relief.  I'm a big proponent of as much eye relief as possible and especially on something that comes back at you a bit more than others.  The 6500 has plenty but that's a different level than the 4200 and Monarch and obviously more money.  I'm really figuring I'll have to just dig deeper and if that's what it takes then that's what I'll do at the right time.
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They're dependable.  My beef with them was the eyepiece is HUGE.  On my rifles it makes working the bolt more difficult with gloves on.  I don't like having to get taller rings to accomodate a scope either. 
 
The adjustments and optics are very good on the ones I've owned though.
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  Here's one that is just a bit above the top 4-16 Monarch in price.  The Signature series has been around a long time and are known for durability.
 
  
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I agree, the lower I can mount the scope the better and especially when it's gonna bump you a bit.  The current Nikon stuff I have seems pretty good to me and I agree the optics and adjustments have sure improved.  I hope their customer service as likewise improved.
 
I always liked the Burris stuff in the past and especially the Signature line but recently have not had very good luck with them.  I don't guess it will cost much to take another look though.
 
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Originally posted by Horsemany Horsemany wrote:

They're dependable.  My beef with them was the eyepiece is HUGE.  On my rifles it makes working the bolt more difficult with gloves on.  I don't like having to get taller rings to accomodate a scope either. 
 
The adjustments and optics are very good on the ones I've owned though.
 
Yep, I think thats a fair statement and something to consider before buying it and then figuring out the bolt won't clear the massive ocular.  
 
Here's a 4-16x on a Reminton 700 and low TPS rings.
 
 
I made the mistake of mounting the scope with the bolt out and the ocular bell was so huge, I couldn't get the bolt back in the rifle...Bucky
 
I kid. It didn't hinder me very much with this particular rifle, but it might with another rifle.      
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Well I would be installing this on a 700 so if I do go that way I'll be sure to put it on with the bolt in and then cuss the thing later when I have to take it off to clean the barrel!! 
 
They do make a good scope but I had heard they were a bit fragile when on a heavier recoiling rifle.  Maybe that's old news or not the norm but I would like to get something for this rifle and be able to leave it on for a long time.  I really like the Leupold VX 3's or their newer version (I can't keep up anymore) but I want an adjustable objective and they don't have it on the 3.5x10 I was looking at.  I don't really want to lose a lot of field of view either, especially on the bottom end.  As a buddy of mine tells me, it's all compromise so just get the best you can and live with it! 
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Originally posted by Tulie Tulie wrote:

Well I would be installing this on a 700 so if I do go that way I'll be sure to put it on with the bolt in and then cuss the thing later when I have to take it off to clean the barrel!! 
 
 
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Monarch's have failed like all other scope brands have failed.
Nothing fragile about the ones I've used. 
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I'll keep them in mind and keep looking for a best deal.  Thanks.
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My Browning Stainless Stalker 300 RUM wears a 4200 Elite 2.50-10 x 50 and has worked perfectly for me ..No eye relief issues at all ...
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Look at a Zeiss Conquest 4.5X14X44.  I mounted one on my Cooper .280 and love it.  Just got the Cooper in September but I have been shooting the crap at of it almost weekly at the range.   Someday on this site I will be able to post pictures!!!!
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Yes, I have purchased form SWFA a few times and use the Super Sniper's on a couple of target rifles.  I did bite the bullet and even though it wasn't in my original plans I picked up a Zeiss Conquest 3x9x40.  Pretty anxious to get it on the rifle and see how it works.  I have some of their binoculars and love them.  For the price difference I figured I'd go for the Zeiss and at least that's one upgrade I've got done.

 
Thanks to all for the input.
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i think you will be happy with the zeiss.
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I know you said you had bad luck with Burris in the past but I think they have turned around their Q/C and I know they have turned around the customer service. Take another look at the Signature with the Posi-Lock. Would be good insurance on a hard kicking gun like a RUM.
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Oops - I see you bought the Zeiss. Great scope
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