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     I have looked through a Nikon Monarch a few times and I like everything about it except for the small view. It looks like your looking through a pipe and you can see a clear but small picture surrounded by a lot of black. I had a Buckmaster that did not have the pipe look to the view. Why is the Buckmasters eyepiece more comfortable and the sight picture bigger than the Monarchs? I have never used a scope with a pipe look to the picture and I dont know If I would notice it so much in the woods or not. Does anyone else not like the small view like me or am I just too picky? Maybe it has something to do with making it brighter....
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you have the scope turned around
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Thanks for the advice but I dont have the scope turned around... Im just saying that it has a small sight picture compared to the buckmaster scope. It reminds me of a Simmons 44 Mag sight picture which was also clear but small with a little view. I was just wondering why it is like this.
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I noticed the same thing and bought an Elite 4200 instead.  The "black circle" is nothing more than a very thin ring on it.  I had the chance to compare it to an almost 20 year old Redfield (from back when they were good) and the 4200 was much brighter/clearer at dusk.  I really like it.
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Did you have a Nikon Monarch and then decidid to buy a 4200 Elite? If so,what is it you like about the 4200 over the Nikon? The 4200 has the Raingaurd which I really want and Im sure it is good in low light. The only thing that concerns me is the eye relief of only 3.3 inches. The Monarch has a constant eye relief of 3.5 inches at all powers. Can you tell me if the 4200 has a pretty constant eye relief of 3.3 or does it increase and decrease with power change? How about the adjustments, are they very precise and repeatable? Does it have a comfortable size sight picture? thanks
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Just kidding on the wrong end, sight picture is field of view and is function of the power setting. Must scopes require the shooter to "creep up" on the rear as the power increases. Even Monarch's regardless of their advertising claim (I do on mine). If your getting a "pipe" effect on the monarch move your eye closer and see if it goes away. Most rain coatings on anything are far overrated. Regardless of the coating one still has to wipe the drops off to get a clear picture unless using flip ups or something. AND if you are worried about harming a x dollar scope by scratching the lenses, while moving in on an elk, with cold rain running down your back, your feet slipping off wet logs, horses that are about to come apart because of thunder and lightening hitting trees and the 4 figures you spend on the hunt you are alot more even tempered than I am.
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When viewing at the correct eye relief, the Nikon has a considerably thicker black circle around the sight picture.  My Elite 4200 is only a very thin ring.  The field of view is also much wider as well.  This isn't a problem of eye relief.  From all the reports I've heard, the RainGuard works very well.  I have yet to experience it for myself.
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Well bottom line. Is the 4200 Elite worth the extra money over the Monarch ? Is it a better scope? Are the adjustments accurate and repeatable? I also considered a Sightron SII , it seems like a good scope but I have never got the chance to compare it to the Monarch except on specs. It is optically comparable to a Monarch?
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I think the 4200 is a better scope.  But, the Monarch s very good and I have never experienced the phenomenon that you ae describing.

 

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I have a 4x Nikon (pre Monarch days) and have never experienced the problem to which you refer.
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Well let me ask this, which scope is more comfortable to look through? Im not asking which is clearer or brighter just simply which one has a bigger sight picture? Maybe the one I looked through has a defect. I think the Simmons 44 Mag had a simialar view size,small.
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