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HI ALL
 
I'm from South Africa, Hunting here is pretty much part of our Culture. Looking to buy a new scope but have no idea what to buy, so I narrowed it to two: NIKON MONARCH OR SIGHTRON SII 3/4/5 - 12/14/16 x 42/44/50 these are my basic options? Really need some help on the subject, we shoot anything from 110yrds to 400yrds on open plains.
Looking to put the scope on a WIN M70 30-06 sportster ? Any feedback on this rifle? Thank you.
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based on nikons CS, i'd get the sightron.
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Which SII model do you reckon stands out? Have been looking at the big sky a but allot bigger in price!

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the BS has much better glass than the SII or monarch.

the 3-12X42 MD with a $75 rebate would be what i pick out of the to names
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as far as the SII goes i'd just get the 3-9, with the 4-16 you're nearing BS $$
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I think that I would lean towards the Monarch.  Granted it has been a while since I have looked through them, but the Monarch looked better to me glass wise in the Monarch.  If it was the SII Big Sky, I might give that the nod ahead of the Monarch.
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have you looked at vortex? i don't know if you can get them in SA, but the viper is a great scope, and they have the best CS in the business.
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I have not delt with sightron but have had some nikon products had to send every one of them back and the CS was god awful will never buy that brand again.
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Or, get zeiss conquest 3-9x40/50 and get over it. never need to look back. They are not that much more than nikons
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THESE ARE MY FINAL OPTIONS

WILL BUY ONE OF THE BELOW, PLEASE RATE THEM (exp. TOP 3), ASWELL AS WHICH YOU RECKON IS THE BEST

THANK YOU - REALLY NEED THE HELP PLEASE

 

  • ZEISS CONQUEST 3.5 - 10 X 50 (HAVE TO SHIP AND COST MORE)

 

  • SIGHTRON  SII 4.5 - 14 X 50 (WITHIN BUDGET)

 

  • SIGHTRON SII BIG SKY 3.5 -10 X 50 (WITHIN BUDGET)

 

  • NIKON MC3 2.5 - 10 X 50M BDC (WITHIN BUDGET)

 

  • NIKON MC3 5 - 20 X 44SF M NP (WWITHIN BUDGET)

 

  • VORTEX 2.5 - 10 X 44 BDC VIPER HS (WITHIN BUDGET)

 

  • BUSHNELL ELITE 5 - 15 X 50 3200 M ADJUSTABLE (WITHIN BUDGET)

 

  • LEUPOLD VX2 3 -9 X 50 DUPLEX (WITHIN BUDGET)
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Originally posted by rustic rustic wrote:

I have not delt with sightron but have had some nikon products had to send every one of them back and the CS was god awful will never buy that brand again.

What were the problems? 

I've owned and still own several Nikon rifle scopes and binos and have yet to have one single problem. 
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If you're looking to stay within budget, Go with the Sightron SII BS.  Their CS is great if you need it.  Most likely you won't.
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Another vote for the Sightron Big Sky. 
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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:


Originally posted by rustic rustic wrote:

I have not delt with sightron but have had some nikon products had to send every one of them back and the CS was god awful will never buy that brand again.


What were the problems? 

I've owned and still own several Nikon rifle scopes and binos and have yet to have one single problem. 


Internal water droplets/condensation/heavy fogging blurring in general.
Their action binos are a total joke.
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Bushnell Elite
 
Zeiss conquest
 
Big Sky
 
I think the Busshy is the best hunter in the group,with the rain guard & fire fly & decent CS & 5x mag box it gets my nod.I do however feel that the Zeiss has the best glass of the group[but not by much]
it loses in the mag box.
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Forgot to mention,Welcome to the OT!
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FWIW, the Sightron BS also has a hydrophobic coating on the lens. 
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Originally posted by rustic rustic wrote:

Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:


Originally posted by rustic rustic wrote:

I have not delt with sightron but have had some nikon products had to send every one of them back and the CS was god awful will never buy that brand again.


What were the problems? 

I've owned and still own several Nikon rifle scopes and binos and have yet to have one single problem. 


Internal water droplets/condensation/heavy fogging blurring in general.
Their action binos are a total joke.


I also have several Nikon products and have had zero problems with any of them. Plus I have a pair of the Action binos as well and they are just fine considering the price point.
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Originally posted by nevlotz nevlotz wrote:

THESE ARE MY FINAL OPTIONS

WILL BUY ONE OF THE BELOW, PLEASE RATE THEM (exp. TOP 3), ASWELL AS WHICH YOU RECKON IS THE BEST

THANK YOU - REALLY NEED THE HELP PLEASE

 

  • ZEISS CONQUEST 3.5 - 10 X 50 (HAVE TO SHIP AND COST MORE)

 

  • SIGHTRON  SII 4.5 - 14 X 50 (WITHIN BUDGET)

 

  • SIGHTRON SII BIG SKY 3.5 -10 X 50 (WITHIN BUDGET)

 

  • NIKON MC3 2.5 - 10 X 50M BDC (WITHIN BUDGET)

 

  • NIKON MC3 5 - 20 X 44SF M NP (WWITHIN BUDGET)

 

  • VORTEX 2.5 - 10 X 44 BDC VIPER HS (WITHIN BUDGET)

 

  • BUSHNELL ELITE 5 - 15 X 50 3200 M ADJUSTABLE (WITHIN BUDGET)

 

  • LEUPOLD VX2 3 -9 X 50 DUPLEX (WITHIN BUDGET)

Of the ones you list, Sightron S2 Big Sky and Zeiss Conquest are your best options.  
The SII you mentioned is pretty much the only Sightron SII scope i really do not like.  That configuration should have parallax correction of some sort.  Either, Big Sky models are a notable step up over the regular SII.

ILya

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I had a Bushnell Elite 3200 5-15x40 and I exchanged it for Sightron SIII (the same glass as SII BS ) and I don´t regret! Wink

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Originally posted by kesi kesi wrote:

I had a Bushnell Elite 3200 5-15x40 and I exchanged it for Sightron SIII (the same glass as SII BS ) and I don´t regret! Wink


Sightron SIII is not the same glass as SII Big Sky.  Very different optical system and more sophisticated objective lens assembly.

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OK...
 
SO I JUST FOUND THAT I CAN IMPORT A SCOPE FROM THE STATES FOR VERY CHEAP, WHICH IS EXCELLENT! ONLY PROBLEM WHAT DO I DO IF THEY BRAKE??
 
THESE SCOPES I RECKON ARE FAR BETTER: WILL COST ME LESS IMPORTING A MORE EXSPENSIVE SCOPE THEN BUYING ONE OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED SCOPES:
 
THESE ARE MY CHOISES:  WHICH SCOPE?? WHAT MAKES THE GOOD??
 

 
 
 


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Thanx for the welcome Excellent
 
 
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Sorry Ceaptrick..
Didnt want to past a link actually just coppied it for the specs
 
 
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