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I am looking at a nikon monarch gold.  2.5-10x50 or x56.  I had a leupold lps that someone decided they needed more than me and am not looking at spending that much money again.  I have all leupolds,  but am looking at trying something different.  I know the nikon probably won't compare to the lps,  but i was going to see if anyone had one and had an opinion.  thanks!!!!!!!!
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Also,  my main interest is low light conditions.  i do a lot of night varmint hunting,  and the lps with a 3/4 moon or better i was good to go.  Any other opinions welcomed.
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i was you once and thought that too but now i only own nikon, you wont be getting the shaft with the nikon gold
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there is a 2.5-10x50 #4 german reticle new in the box on evil bay for $520,  great deal at half the price.  guess the best way to find out is pony up and buy one,  if nothing else it will be a great scope for a rifle i don't moon hunt with and i can save my pennies if i'm not satisfied.
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is there some special reason that you only hunt at night???
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i have better luck.  i live in central tx and have a coyote and hog problem,  and the hogs are very nocturnal.  it's going to be mounted on a 7mm magnum,  overkill for the coyotes,  but i'm not worried about tearing them up,  just want them gone.  it's my utility piece that i bang around and don't worry about scratches.  just a gun that i am alway comfortable with,  it's what i deer hunt with as well.  i like the low power of the monarch gold for night,  and the large objective is a plus.  i like the 56mm,  but i already have the right rings for a 50,  so it would save me some $ if i go with the 50.
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 ok thats understandable i wasnt sure what the scoop was, i will tell the story again i'm sure that its getting old but i too was a hardcore leupold fan at one time, but i'm over that now, and i've gone with nikon and burris and havent been anything but happy so far!! even got some hardcore bushnell banner/trophy guys to step up to a nikon prostaff, and you want to go from leupold to the monarch gold, wow that brings tears to my eyes! im like a proud parent at graduation!
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don't get me wrong,  i'm not bashing leupold.  i just want to weigh my options and see if there is something as good or better for the money.  i have 5 leupolds and have never had a problem and really like them.  the monarchs eye relief is the main reason i'm considering it as well and with the 50mm and side focus,  it looks like a lot of scope for the money.  i am just concerned about the quality of the glass compared to the leupold and the field of view.
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Originally posted by fwinn fwinn wrote:

don't get me wrong,  i'm not bashing leupold.  i just want to weigh my options and see if there is something as good or better for the money.  i have 5 leupolds and have never had a problem and really like them.  the monarchs eye relief is the main reason i'm considering it as well and with the 50mm and side focus,  it looks like a lot of scope for the money.  i am just concerned about the quality of the glass compared to the leupold and the field of view.


Quality of glass should be the least of your concerns....Nikon is considerably better than Leupold at any price point.
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Leupold LPS is a pretty nice scope, but Nikon Monarch Gold is quite excellent as well.  I have not compared the two side by side. but I have spent a little time with both.  Optical quality should be pretty close.  If anything, Nikon might be a bit better, but I can't say for sure without comparing side by side.  For the money, Nikon is a better choice hands down.

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http://www.riflescopes.com/products/6617/new_nikon_2.5-10x50 _monarch_gold_30mm_riflescope.htm

This it?

 

The Gold also comes with a BDC reticle, if your interested. 

 

 

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yes, that's it.  it's got a lot going for it as far as usefulness to me.  i'm not looking to spend as much as i can,  just have about a $500-600 budget and this fits well,  but if there is something else that is as good or better for the same or less money,  i'll take suggestions.  thanks for the input so far,  this is a neat forum.
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Nikon is better than Leupold at any price point??? Please list the independent labratory tests validating that statement. I have two 6.5-20s one a Nikon one a Leupold, shoot them both out to 600 yards and will be darned if I can see any difference between them. This site is overrun with opions and very very short of any independent research data.
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rootmanslim,

which nikon and leupold models do you have?  just curious for comparison purposes?

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VX III and Monarch gold UCC both 6.5-20x40s
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fwinn, check out the sample list at SWFA. They have some good pricing on Nikon's and you will have customer support.

http://www.samplelist.com/default.asp?display_num=10&mfg _selection=9&prod_type=1&hide_sold=false

The 56mm lense would help some but I use a 50mm lense on a 3.5-10 Leupold for night time coyote hunting and it works great. I mounted a Surefire on my gun and it really works out nice for night time hunting.

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Originally posted by rootmanslim rootmanslim wrote:

VX III and Monarch gold UCC both 6.5-20x40s

 

Slim, I think you may have the standard Monarch with a 1" tube.

(I have the 6.5-20x44mm Monarch lit Mil Dot.)

 

I don't think the Gold comes in that flavor.

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This site is a forum meaning it is a medium for open discussion. There does not have to be any "independent labratory test" validating anything. Matter of fact, if there was well then it would cease being a forum and would be a scientific think tank limited to scientist posting lab and research results.

 

On a side note, the Nikon Monrach and the Leupold VXIII will be so close I doubt anyone could really tell any difference. Personally, I'd buy the Monarch usually they are cheaper in price and I like to annoy the die hard Golden Ring fans out there.   

 

Happy Shooting

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only problem i see on samplelist is it's a refurb with a 90 day warranty instead of lifetime.  i think i will try one out,  but gonna hunt out best deal,  i'm not in a huge hurry with deer season ending and i'm not gonna have time to do any varmint hunting for a while.
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Originally posted by Acenturian Acenturian wrote:

This site is a forum meaning it is a medium for open discussion. There does not have to be any "independent labratory test" validating anything. Matter of fact, if there was well then it would cease being a forum and would be a scientific think tank limited to scientist posting lab and research results.

 

On a side note, the Nikon Monrach and the Leupold VXIII will be so close I doubt anyone could really tell any difference. Personally, I'd buy the Monarch usually they are cheaper in price and I like to annoy the die hard Golden Ring fans out there.   

 

Happy Shooting

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Koshkin comes pretty close

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i don't mind opinions,  that's why i got on here and that's why i asked.   they are like a#$holes,  everybody has one.  all the scientific data in the world won't stack up to real world experience to me.  i have and have friends that have all leupolds,  but lately i've seen lot's of people using others with success and am open to new things.  my buddies think they have to have a 300 ultra mag to kill a deer and i jumped on that wagon with them.  i bought a 223 wssm for my nephew to hunt with and this year i've killed 2 deer with it instead of my 7mm mag.  so in short,  i can form my own opinion as well and like to hear the viewpoints of other hunters.
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Originally posted by tahqua 
<P>Koshkin comes pretty close</P>
<P>[/QUOTE tahqua

Koshkin comes pretty close

[/QUOTE wrote:

 

Blah, blah, blah.....Koshkin

 

Blah, blah, blah.....Koshkin IS AN EVIL GENIUS!!!!!

 = Koshkin

(Get the picture??)  

 

 

Were incredibly lucky to have him as a esteemed member here. 



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That's funny, now I have to clean myself off.
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well,  i ordered a 2.5-10x50 german #4 reticle monarch gold.  i have several vx3's and my buddies have leupold lps scopes,  so when it comes in i will do a comparo and tell you my opinion. 
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It is amusing the games that are being played. "I buy Nikon to annoy Leupold users" Do you really think anyone cares? I can't recall being at a range or match where shooters squared off with their fists over the scope the other fellow was using. It reminds me of the sophmoric window stickers one sees in Fords with the little guy pissing on a Chevy bowtie (or vice versa).
I don't know which scope is best, nor do I believe any of the opinionated posters on this site do either. While there may be clear differences between a $29.95 Bushnell and a $1300 S&B, I doubt any of us could pick out our favorite from a group of equally priced scopes in a blind test. A much more important test is how many of us can hit a 9" gong offhand everytime at 200 yards with our favorite smokepole.I have one that can, a Tikka sniper 308 with a cheap Fullfield II 3-9. It a'int the scope or the ammo or the rifle that is the secret... it's the single set trigger. So getting damp shorts over scope brand A vs B is nice to chat about but means only so much in the real world. Beware of the guy with the $300 30-06 rifle, the $200 4X scope who shoots 2000 rounds per year from four positions. You won't see him on OLN hi fiving some yuppie with a 6-24x56 scope but his freezer is always full.
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