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I am setting up a hunting rifle and need help picking a scope.  The rifle is a remington 700 cdl in 300 rum.  It is bedded and I put a muzzle brake on it.  I plan to use it on elk and brown bear. The scope I have on it now is a real peace so it is gone. I am looking at 2 scopes in peticular both are 30mm tubs just because the rings on it are good milletts.

The Nikon Monarch Gold 2.5-10x50 #6617 and the Bushnell Elite 4200 2.5-10x50 #422152M .  Any help you can give will be welcome since I will have to buy online and can not look at them before hand.

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Sorry to say but no millet rings are "good millets". The 4200 is a better scope.
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Originally posted by SVD666 SVD666 wrote:

Sorry to say but no millet rings are "good millets". The 4200 is a better scope.


While I do not like Millet's Angle-loc rings, I do think that their "Grabber" rings are pretty good.  The design is unusual, admittedly, but they work and return to zero quite well.

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I am using the heat treated steel turn in with 2 piece bases

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So svd666 what makes the 4200 the better scope.    They look close on paper exsept for the exit pupil and Eye Relief looks a bit in favor of the nikon.  But I can not compair the 2 side by side.
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Hey cj, from what I gather on the forum, the 4200 is made of a hammer-forged, titanium alloy one-piece tube, has slightly better optical quality, light gathering abilities, and probably better adjustments (not 100% sure on that).
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Originally posted by cjhauser cjhauser wrote:

So svd666 what makes the 4200 the better scope.    They look close on paper exsept for the exit pupil and Eye Relief looks a bit in favor of the nikon.  But I can not compair the 2 side by side.

 

The 4200 has better optical properties and construction. Millet rings are made with inferior steel and poor tolerances IMO, I have seen to many of Millets products fail and show poor wear.

 



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Rings and mounts should be one of the last places to save a few bucks on a set-up.

 

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the rings at this point are not a real consern.  if I start to have any conserns about them I will dump them, in a hart beat infact.  I had problems with leupold too.  What I really need to know about is the optical quality, ease of use, quality of product, and whether the 30mm tube makes a differance in these 2 product lines.  one of the things I am wondering about is weather the 30mm tube makes a differance in the bushnell since the exit pupil dose not change from their 1in line.  from reading though the posts on this forum their are a lot of very wise people here problably more so then me and I value your info.
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If the 1in or 30mm makes no differance I will go 1in.
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30MM will have more elevation.
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Of the two, I would go with the Nikon because of better eye relief.



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Dose the larger size of the exit pupil makes it easier to center up to the scope.  And how dose the 50mm obj perform vs 40mm
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