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Hi everyone, I am looking to do some target shooting and some deer hunting with a Remington 700 sps in .308 I will be picking up soon.  I was wondering what your opinions on this scope were?  I won't be shooting it a ton right now so can't justify spending over $200 or so.  I was hoping to get the mil-dot reticle in this price range in this magnification so what are your opinions on it?  Should I get a different reticle? Is there another Nikon you recommend instead?  Thanks.
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That Buckmaster isn't half bad (with the regular plex reticle).
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Ok... Care to comment on the Mil-dot?  Why is the Buckmaster only good with the plex reticle?
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Good scope! Mine had the Nikoplex reticle too.
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What do you need a mildot for?
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 I think these guys are suggesting that a regular plex reticle is probably a better choice for most deer hunting than a Mil dot, which is useful for long range work but can be hard to see against a brushy background in typical whitetail cover.
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True but I would like to learn how to range things using a mildot, would it really be that hard to hunt deer with a mildot?
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Originally posted by Canis Latrans Canis Latrans wrote:

True but I would like to learn how to range things using a mildot, would it really be that hard to hunt deer with a mildot?
 
If your wanting to learn to use mildots, I'd recommend either a fixed power scope, like the 10x Super Sniper, or the new variable 3-9x FFP Super Sniper.
Your only going to be able to range on 1 magnification setting with the BM your considering.  
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Originally posted by Canis Latrans Canis Latrans wrote:

True but I would like to learn how to range things using a mildot, would it really be that hard to hunt deer with a mildot?
 Probably not; it's just going to be harder to find the reticle in heavy brush or very low light conditions at dawn or dusk when deer are most active. Hunt long enough, and sooner or later that will cost you a shot at a trophy buck. A lot depends on local conditions, of course.
 All I'm really saying is that there are better reticles for most deer hunting conditions.
 The only exception I can think of is hunting prairie mule deer or desert Coues deer; a mil-dot could be a very useful for the long ranges encountered, as long as the light was decent.
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Hmmm, I know I'm going to appear stubborn here, but I really don't see how finding the reticle, even in low light and brush, would be any harder than a nikoplex reticle?  There are large black dots arranged along the axes, I don't see myself struggling to see that.  

Cheaptrick, you say I shouldn't get the buckmaster to learn mildot because I can only range with it on one power setting, but then tell me I should get a super sniper fixed 10x... again that doesn't make much sense to me.  I do however agree the super sniper 3-9x looks great, and just what I'm looking for besides the fact that it is $400 more than I said I was going to spend.

The bottom line is can I get a better scope for under $200? Is there another similarly priced NIKON scope I should look at instead?  Thank you for all of your replies, I really do appreciate it and am not trying to start trouble, I'm just not sure I see where you're all coming from.
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I said if you want to learn mil dots, then you may want to consider a fixed power or a FFP reticle scope. A FFP variable would be ideal, but not all together necessary.
The BM will range for you, but only at 14x.
If thats cool for you, then you've found your scope.
 
The Nikoplex would be better in lower ambient light than the mil dot, I would venture to guess, as well.
 
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Thanks, I appreciate your input.  One last question, how would you compare the buckmaster to the prostaff in optical quality? Thanks again.
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Originally posted by Canis Latrans Canis Latrans wrote:

Thanks, I appreciate your input.  One last question, how would you compare the buckmaster to the prostaff in optical quality? Thanks again.
 
The BM is better by a decent margin and I've had both.  
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