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As the title says, I need some input on the Nikon Buckmaster with a BDC(6-18x40) or a Burris Fullfield II with the Ballistic Plex (6.5-20x42)for my Savage 12FV in .223.  Which drop compensating reticle is better calibrated for a 55gr bullet at .223 velocities?  Are there other brands with similar price and quality I should be considering?  Thanks for any information.
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Just bumping this up as I'd like to hear the answer also.
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Good question.
 
I have only used the BDC reticle with a .308.
I plan on using a 68gr .223 round with my 1/7 twist barrel, but haven't yet.
You can "split the circle" with the BDC to find your point of impact. The BDC nor the Ballistic Plex are caliber specific reticles. You'll just have to shoot them in. Big%20Grin
 
This pic is of a Shoot N See PD target shot at 300 yds with a .308 and a 168gr. Sierra MK. I set my zero (center of cross hairs) @ 100 yards. I set the BDC reticle on the 3rd circle, center mass of the target. POI was a little high.
 
 
This is what happened when I split the 2nd circle and the 3rd.   
 
Sorry fellas I don't have better intel on the .223. I'm working on it!!
 
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http://www.burrisoptics.com/reticles.html
i had a ffII w/ ballistic plex and yes the have a setup for your 55 gr .223 bullet, from 100-500yds, i havent looked through a nikon with a bdc  so i couldnt tell you which i prefer. the burris comes with a bunch of stickers that tell you where each line will hit depending on caliber bullet weight etc.
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Good information, thanks.
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Here r the subtensions for each in inch per hundred yds.--
 
BDC=2, 4.5,7,11,15
 
BP= 1.5,4.5,7.5,11 
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

http://www.burrisoptics.com/reticles.html
i had a ffII w/ ballistic plex and yes the have a setup for your 55 gr .223 bullet, from 100-500yds, i havent looked through a nikon with a bdc  so i couldnt tell you which i prefer. the burris comes with a bunch of stickers that tell you where each line will hit depending on caliber bullet weight etc.
 
 Where ya put all them there stickers ?   Whacko 
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you leave them on the sheet they come on, till you need one
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I put the stickers i make up myself in a Butler Creek ocular cover, and i always apply my reticles at the optics highest power. This is the best long-range shooting reference system i've ever used since it's so quickly referenced and applied. Worked pretty good on an antelope doe in WY last year. I had a 4.5-14X VX-III VH reticle on a Savage Striker 243 WSSM. I was shooting the 115 Berger @ 2525 mv, and that trajectory doesn't even come close to the VH reticle subtensions. So i calcd. the trajectory, tested it, put it in the BC ocular cover and shot my doe at 350. That rig and the system i've established for it has taken 4 doe antelope between 290 and 425 yds., 2 coyotes beyond 500 yds. (1 in a 10 mph avg. 3 o'clock wind), and a lot of steel between 300-600 yds.

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Originally posted by sscoyote sscoyote wrote:

Here r the subtensions for each in inch per hundred yds.--
 
BDC=2, 4.5,7,11,15
 
BP= 1.5,4.5,7.5,11 


Is that in Inch per 100yards or MOA?  If I run the ballistics program I have the BDC is just about dead on with my .223 load (50gr Blitzking at 3350)if sighted in at 200 yards looking at the MOA column. 
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Havent seen the Nikon but I have the Burris on a .17HMR and going by the supplied sheet with the ranges matching the subs it seems to work VERY well, so I'd assume with the .223 it would work well also.I'm sure the Nikon's is also accurate, most manufacturers have it figured out so it'll come down to which scope value you like. One thing nice about the Nikon is that it has side focus so you'll be able to add those Butler Creek flip ups.Glass in either scope is pretty comparable....the're both good value scopes and clear.
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The subtensions i listed r in IPHY, so if the ballistics program uses MOA just divide the figures by 1.05

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The supplied chart that comes with the Burris has been right on with my Rem 700 VSFL .223 and on a BAR 30-06. The glass on the Burris is very crisp. The Nikon has better turrets than the hunter knobs usually on the Burris. I feel that the BCD circles are overly distracting at long range. Both are very good scopes and I am a firm believer in the ballistic reticle.
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What load are you shooting out of your .223(bullet and velocity)?
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

you leave them on the sheet they come on, till you need one
 
 Just jokin pyro ..... LOL
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I was shooting the 55 gr Remington HP stated at 3240 ftps. At the time I had not saved up enough brass to do much reloading. The remington tables and the Burris tables compaire very favoralbly. Field test matched well.
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i have a nikon buckmaster with the BDC reticle and it works great.  mine shoots a little high as well when i get out to 300+, but i have split the circle as well with great results.
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