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Anyone know where to get some Nikon 8-16x40 xl zoom binocular?  I heard of them today and spent almost two hours on google trying to find them.
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Here's a link to Nikon's Action Zoom, 10-22x50 and 7-15x35.
They also have compact zoom's.

http://www.nikonhunting.com/products/binoculars/action


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Originally posted by Rich Coyle Rich Coyle wrote:

Anyone know where to get some Nikon 8-16x40 xl zoom binocular?  I heard of them today and spent almost two hours on google trying to find them.
 
It was discontinued years ago, it will be like trying to find a needle in a haystack.
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bman940,
 
I tried the 10-22X50.  They are not as good to me as the 7-15X35.  I made a chart tocdo come comparisons with different optics.  When I compared the Minox 13X56 with the 7-15X35 Nikon I found I could read line 2 with the Nikon on 15X but could not read line 2 with the Minox.
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The oldies will be tough to find and like bird said, almsot like a needle in a haystack scenerio. 
Best of luck, feel free to drop me a note if I can answer any Nikon Related questions for you.

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Originally posted by bman940 bman940 wrote:

The oldies will be tough to find and like bird said, almsot like a needle in a haystack scenerio. 
Best of luck, feel free to drop me a note if I can answer any Nikon Related questions for you.

 
Thanks.  The Nikon 7-15X35 I now have are great.  I hope to upgrade, if posible.  I am unimpressed with folks who read about how terrible zooms are and then post the same thing without checking them.
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Originally posted by Rich Coyle Rich Coyle wrote:

 I am unimpressed with folks who read about how terrible zooms are and then post the same thing without checking them.
 
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Those statements posted came from:
 
1. An American Importer/distributor who used to sell Chinese zoom binoculars and no longer does because of all the complaints & returns.
 
 
2. Optical repairmen who have worked on binoculars for 35+ years.
 
 
If you happen to get  one that works, just keep your receipt so you can tell us how long it worked before it needed to be repaired.
 
 
I am unimpressed with individuals who refuse the "wisdom" of those honest people in the optics business, who are doing all of us a big favor by sharing their many years of experience with us. 
 


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I've had a pair of Nikon zoomers going on 10 years now, they've been great. I fell for the magnification the first time I saw a pair on an Ornithology field trip longer ago than I care to admit.

No doubt the are bigger and less durable than fixed power. All the same weaknesses a variable scope has compared to a fixed scope.

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Bird Watcher,
 
Did either of the two links mentions the Nikon 7-15X35?  How many of the posters who bad mouth zoom binoculars have read either of those links or used a pair of 7-15X35 Nikons or the 8-16X40 that I want?  I have yet to loan these to someone who is not impressed with them. 
 
I bought two Nikons 7-15X35 in 2002.  They have been trouble free and allow me to see what other binoculars with much more expencise glass can see.  How does this work?  The glass is good enough so that when I turn up the magnification above what other binoculars show the 7-15X35 still give a clear picture.
 
That's why I could read the second line on my new optics chart and could only read the first line with my Minox 13X56.  The fact that I had to turn up the setting to 15X with the Nikon is  irrelevant.  The test was at what magnification could I read the first line and how many lines could each glass show me.  The z5 5-25X52 showed me the first line at about 10 3/4X setting the 7-15X35 Nikon showed me the first line on a setting of 11X.  The fixed Minox could not be turned up, so it was limited to the first line.
 
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Originally posted by Rich Coyle Rich Coyle wrote:

I bought two Nikons 7-15X35 in 2002.  They have been trouble free and allow me to see what other binoculars with much more expencise glass can see.
The glass is good enough so that when I turn up the magnification above what other binoculars show the 7-15X35 still give a clear picture. 
 
1. Enjoy them without trying to PUSH them down everyone's throat.
 
2. You are obviously on some type of a Crusade for zoom binoculars, take the chip off of your shoulder, this is only a Forum, not the Inquisition.
 
3. Things are "irrelevant" to you because your mind is already made up & you don't want to be confused with facts.
 
 
 


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Bird Watcher,
 
"3. Things are "irrelevant" to you because your mind is already made up & you don't want to be confused with facts."
 
Is that why I use Minox 13X56 when I go varmint hunting?
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Rich:
 
Mr. Zoom, your Avatar is showing true, Jacka** Smile
 
You have been provided much proof over several forums, zoom binoculars are not the thing.  What are you trying to prove ?
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Originally posted by Rich Coyle Rich Coyle wrote:

Bird Watcher,
 
"3. Things are "irrelevant" to you because your mind is already made up & you don't want to be confused with facts."
 
Is that why I use Minox 13X56 when I go varmint hunting?
 
It's 'why' you compare a 13x against a 15x and call it irrelevant.
 
Why don't you get Honest and compare a Minox 15x against the Nikon 15x, so your magnification comparison is realistic and not Biased towards your favorite zoom Porro?


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Originally posted by Bird Watcher Bird Watcher wrote:

Originally posted by Rich Coyle Rich Coyle wrote:

Bird Watcher,
 
"3. Things are "irrelevant" to you because your mind is already made up & you don't want to be confused with facts."
 
Is that why I use Minox 13X56 when I go varmint hunting?
 
It's 'why' you compare a 13x against a 15x and call it irrelevant.
 
Why don't you get Honest and compare a Minox 15x against the Nikon 15x, so your comparison is realistic and not Biased towards your favorite zoom Porro?
 
Are you serious?  The Minox 13X56 sells for $700 to $900 on the web.  The Nikon 7-15X35 sells for $135 to $135.  This proves the idea "You get what you pay for" in optics does not pan out.  You get what you shop for.
 
If you or anyone wants to send one, or anything else, to me I will lay it on the sand bags and compare whatever arrives with my wonderful Nikon 7-15X35 on the new "Can your read this?" optics chart.  The beauty of this chart is the smaller letters blur out if you don't have enough magnifcation or clearity.  Not so when one tries to use a bush or tree.
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Originally posted by Rich Coyle 
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>3. Things are irrelevant to you because your mind is already made up & you don't want to be confused with facts.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Is that why I use Minox 13X56 when I go varmint hunting?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Are you serious?  The Minox 13X56 sells for $700 to $900 on the web.  The Nikon 7-15X35 sells for $135 to $135.  This proves the idea You get what you pay for in optics does not pan out.  You get what you shop for.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If you or anyone wants to send one, or anything else, to me I will lay it on the sand bags and compare whatever arrives with my wonderful Nikon 7-15X35 on the new Can your read this? optics chart.  The beauty of this chart is the smaller letters blur out if you don't have enough magnifcation or clearity.  Not so when one tries to use a bush or tree.</DIV>[/QUOTE Rich Coyle
 
3. Things are irrelevant to you because your mind is already made up & you don't want to be confused with facts.
 
Is that why I use Minox 13X56 when I go varmint hunting?
 
Are you serious?  The Minox 13X56 sells for $700 to $900 on the web.  The Nikon 7-15X35 sells for $135 to $135.  This proves the idea You get what you pay for in optics does not pan out.  You get what you shop for.
 
If you or anyone wants to send one, or anything else, to me I will lay it on the sand bags and compare whatever arrives with my wonderful Nikon 7-15X35 on the new Can your read this? optics chart.  The beauty of this chart is the smaller letters blur out if you don't have enough magnifcation or clearity.  Not so when one tries to use a bush or tree.
[/QUOTE wrote:


The problem is that yo do have the blaring audacity to actually "attempt some sort of comparison".  Everybody but you sees pretty quick you have no idea in the world of what it is you are doing.  There needs to be some law against you having resolution charts, or at least ones that don't have the warning "DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS AT HOME WITHOUT ADULT SUPERVISION".
 
You can't even get your comparisons into the apples to oranges category.  You are more like at animal vs vegetable vs mineral and you don't have a clue which is which.
 
I really hope you can't find this binocular.  There will be no rest on any forum if you do.
The problem is that yo do have the blaring audacity to actually "attempt some sort of comparison".  Everybody but you sees pretty quick you have no idea in the world of what it is you are doing.  There needs to be some law against you having resolution charts, or at least ones that don't have the warning "DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS AT HOME WITHOUT ADULT SUPERVISION".
 
You can't even get your comparisons into the apples to oranges category.  You are more like at animal vs vegetable vs mineral and you don't have a clue which is which.
 
I really hope you can't find this binocular.  There will be no rest on any forum if you do.


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Originally posted by Klamath Klamath wrote:

Originally posted by Rich Coyle 
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<DIV>3. Things are irrelevant to you because your mind is already made up & you don't want to be confused with facts.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Is that why I use Minox 13X56 when I go varmint hunting?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Are you serious?  The Minox 13X56 sells for $700 to $900 on the web.  The Nikon 7-15X35 sells for $135 to $135.  This proves the idea You get what you pay for in optics does not pan out.  You get what you shop for.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If you or anyone wants to send one, or anything else, to me I will lay it on the sand bags and compare whatever arrives with my wonderful Nikon 7-15X35 on the new Can your read this? optics chart.  The beauty of this chart is the smaller letters blur out if you don't have enough magnifcation or clearity.  Not so when one tries to use a bush or tree.</DIV></td></tr></table> 
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<DIV>The problem is that yo do have the blaring audacity to actually attempt some sort of comparison.  Everybody but you sees pretty quick you have no idea in the world of what it is you are doing.  There needs to be some law against you having resolution charts, or at least ones that don't have the warning DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS AT HOME WITHOUT ADULT SUPERVISION.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You can't even get your comparisons into the apples to oranges category.  You are more like at animal vs vegetable vs mineral and you don't have a clue which is which.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I really hope you can't find this binocular.  There will be no rest on any forum if you do.</DIV>[/QUOTE Rich Coyle
 
3. Things are irrelevant to you because your mind is already made up & you don't want to be confused with facts.
 
Is that why I use Minox 13X56 when I go varmint hunting?
 
Are you serious?  The Minox 13X56 sells for $700 to $900 on the web.  The Nikon 7-15X35 sells for $135 to $135.  This proves the idea You get what you pay for in optics does not pan out.  You get what you shop for.
 
If you or anyone wants to send one, or anything else, to me I will lay it on the sand bags and compare whatever arrives with my wonderful Nikon 7-15X35 on the new Can your read this? optics chart.  The beauty of this chart is the smaller letters blur out if you don't have enough magnifcation or clearity.  Not so when one tries to use a bush or tree.
The problem is that yo do have the blaring audacity to actually attempt some sort of comparison.  Everybody but you sees pretty quick you have no idea in the world of what it is you are doing.  There needs to be some law against you having resolution charts, or at least ones that don't have the warning DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS AT HOME WITHOUT ADULT SUPERVISION.
 
You can't even get your comparisons into the apples to oranges category.  You are more like at animal vs vegetable vs mineral and you don't have a clue which is which.
 
I really hope you can't find this binocular.  There will be no rest on any forum if you do.
[/QUOTE wrote:

 
I called a friend of mine who is a shooter and enjoys optics as much as I do.  One day I asked if he knows of any good optics sites on the 'net.  He told me he no longer checks them because everyone he has ever checked has too many obnoxous posters who don't care about optics as much care about trying to disparage other posters.
 
Klamath, you fit right in with the juvinile attitude prevelant on optics forums.  Just a heads up to someone who might want to grow up.
 
I called a friend of mine who is a shooter and enjoys optics as much as I do.  One day I asked if he knows of any good optics sites on the 'net.  He told me he no longer checks them because everyone he has ever checked has too many obnoxous posters who don't care about optics as much care about trying to disparage other posters.
 
Klamath, you fit right in with the juvinile attitude prevelant on optics forums.  Just a heads up to someone who might want to grow up.
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You calling anybody juvenile or telling anybody to grow up is just too darn funny.  I wear that as a badge of honor.
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Originally posted by Klamath Klamath wrote:

Coyle
 

You calling anybody juvenile or telling anybody to grow up is just too darn funny.  I wear that as a badge of honor.

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Whether you realize it or not I was trying to help. I am glad I could honor you.
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I'm going to trade off my high powered rifles  and find a good "Daisy Red Rider" to use for elk hunting. It'll be lighter to carry, and the ammo is lighter and cheaper. I'm certain that it will be as effective on the elk, just like Tasco compares to high end scopes!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Rich Coyle Rich Coyle wrote:

Whether you realize it or not I was trying to help. I am glad I could honor you.
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You might want to expend some effort in helping yourself first.  While you're at it, you might try honoring yourself in the process by utilizing some intellectual integrity in your "stuff".
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I'm sure you already know....you guys aren't the first ones to go 'round and 'round with this guy and his way of thinking / testing / etc.......it's a broken record listening to him trying to convince everyone that his zoom Nikon's are the the greatest invention in history of optics.

Rich, if you love 'em that's great and all that should matter to you.  It just seems like  99% of the posts you make about this the people don't agree with you, and that's fine too.  I like Leupold GR HD's.  That's all that matters to me, and don't care if everyone else in the civilized world hates them. Know what I mean Vern?
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Originally posted by JGRaider JGRaider wrote:

Rich, if you love 'em that's great and all that should matter to you.  It just seems like  99% of the posts you make about this the people don't agree with you, and that's fine too.  I like Leupold GR HD's.  That's all that matters to me, and don't care if everyone else in the civilized world hates them. Know what I mean Vern?


JGRaider,

I do know what you mean. It is fun for me to tell others about what I like. Perhaps someone out there might give some a try and realize the same thing I have. In fact on one thread I did see where others felt the same way about their Nikon 7-15X35s that I do. What a small world!
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Rich,
 
I think that you would prefer this one even more.
 
Minox 8-14x40 BD ED Vario
 
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Bird Watcher Bird Watcher wrote:

Rich,

 

I think that you would prefer this one even more.

 

<SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 17px; FONT-SIZE: 11px; CURSOR: text" id=eow_to>Minox 8-14x40 BD ED Vario</SPAN>

<SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 17px; FONT-SIZE: 11px; CURSOR: text"></SPAN> 


<SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 17px; FONT-SIZE: 11px; CURSOR: text"></SPAN> 

<SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 17px; FONT-SIZE: 11px; CURSOR: text"></SPAN> 

 

 


Bird Watcher,

Normally I prefer porros, but I have never seen these. Thanks for the heads up.
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