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Does anyone have any experience with the Nikon 4.5-14x40 Buckmaster scope??
I'll be getting a 7mm mag before long and looking for a good all around scope.  Just curious what you think of the BDC?? Open to suggestions, just keep it around $300.  It'll mainly be used for paper out to 600+, possibly on coyotes, and maybe deer.

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Nikon's bdc is ok for big game hunting, but I like Burris ballistic plex better for target work and hunting combo. http://swfa.com/Burris-45-14x42-Fullfield-II-Rifle-Scope-P7933.aspx 
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I have two Buckmasters, a 4.5-14 and a 6-18X; neither has the BDC reticle. Frankly haven't heard much good about the BDC on anything smaller than deer, mil-dot would be my choice. The Buckmasters are good scopes for the money: glass is decent, adjustments are excellent and the scope has a quality feel to it. The only gripe could be their tendency toward "tunnel vision". Personally, if 600 yard shooting at smaller game would be common, I'd pop for a Monarch in 4-16 or 5-20X (although the latter only comes with a plex or BDC ?!. Sure wish Nikon would come up with another ballistic reticle choice, as their BDC just ain't gittin' it for many.)
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I have a mildot model 4.5-14x Buckmaster on my Remington 700 SPS-V. It's a great scope. Tracks perfectly out to 300yds. The side focus is a great parallax adjustment,and much easier to use in the field than the AO model that it replaced.
Optically, it's slighly inferior in resolution to my Vortex Viper 6.5-20 44mm, but not by very much. It's only really possible to tell a difference by using an optics "eye chart" at distance and seeing how far down you can read with the two scopes at a comparable magnification setting, or by shooting at very extended ranges. With both scopes I have shot MOA and smaller groups at 300yds in a good ring setup.
Compared to comparable Monarchs, I've honestly not been able to tell much difference,as I think I've looked through a few lower quality Monarchs.

The BDC I'm not a fan of. On the regular BDC, the inside of the circle is 1.5 MOA at top magnification per Nikon. I'd rather have horizontal stadia (Burris Ballistic plex or the Vortex plex reticle) than the little chunky donuts Nikon uses.  I suppose they're fine for big game, or targets in close.

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I have the nikon coyote which is basically a camo buckmater with bdc reticle on my coyote 223.  My other coyote 223 has is also a 4.5-14 X 40 only with a mil dot reticle.
 
I think its a lot of scope for the money, now that I've shot the BDC I wish I had a different reticle.
 
I'd buy the same thing agan without the bdc. 
 
I think Nikon is a lot of scope for the money, for 300 its a good scope
 
 
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The 600+ would realistically be for paper, not animals, if my abilities gets up to snuff, then maybe it would be possible, but a clean kill is more important than my ego.  Shots on coyotes or deer out to 300 maybe a little farther, would be more like it.  The rifle is capable, I'd like a scope that's capable too.  Really need to stick to around $300.

After looking and comparing, I think I like the ballistic plex of Burris, better than the BDC of Nikon.

Thanks, feel free to keep suggesting.

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I have not seen the burris reticle before; the bdc is not your best choice (my reason is below).  Look at a monarch or 4200 with target knobs and a plex reticle.  Then you can dial in any distance and not have to hope the shot fits your reticle.

my 2 cents.

Nikon has a video on the bdc (i have the scope you speak of on a savage 10fp in 308).  To use the bdc correctly the scope has to be on maximum magnification.  (not so good for hunting in the evening and early morning).   I would have preferred the plex but came as a package deal.  Also the bdc is supposed to hit within the animals vitals.  Not a precise shot for paper.  Watch the video and it will explain it in more detail.

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Guys, I would like to encourage you to go to Nikonhunting.com, click on the Spot On logo. This will take you to Nikons, Spot On Ballistic Match Technology Program. There you can enter all your load data and receive a lot of valuable information. If you have a Nikon BDC scope you can enter the type of scope and get corresponding distances for each circle at different magnification settings. You can also print out a field reference guide as well. I wasn't so sure when I got my first BDC scope 5-6 years ago. But when I dropped my first Kansas Whitetail at 427 yards using the second circle and a .300 win mag I was a convert.
Yes it takes a little getting used to and the Spot On site will definitely help you with that.
If the BDC reticles don't work for you, Nikon certainly has a lot of other quality Optic's that hopfully will.
I have worked for Nikon for 3 months but I have been using their products for 15+ years. 
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Thanks for that info, I'll definitely be checking it out.  Still haven't made up my mind and still looking over the different scopes.  It'll either be a BDC or a Mil-dot, 4-5x12-15, somewhere around $300-400 but no more.

Thanks again.

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Odie keep your eye on the SL  they have the Nikons your looking at/wanting on there for great prices.
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Will do.  Thanks.  One more scope that I'm looking at is:  http://swfa.com/Bushnell-5-15x40-Elite-3200-Rifle-Scope-P8748.aspx

Opinions??

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Got one of those, too, (well, actually it's a 7-21X, but very similar.) Personally, the only advantage over my Buckmasters is the ability to focus down closer. The Nikons seem to have a tad better glass, and (possibly) more adjustment range. However, a 5-15X Legend at a lower price without much sacrifice in quality might swing the pendulum toward Bushnell.
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This looking for a good scope is getting mindrackingHammer.  I did a search and didn't find anything, I also scanned and didn't see anything for the Leatherwood.  So far the Nikon seems to be a good choice, but I was wondering if anyone has any experience with Leatherwood scopes.  Particularly this model:

http://swfa.com/Leatherwood-4-16x50-Uni-Dial-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P11914.aspx

I know years back they had a big following since they were used by the Military(to what extent, I'm not sure), just wondering if they were still good.

Just a rehash, it'll be used on a M70 7mm mag.  Here is the other that I've just about decided on:

http://swfa.com/Nikon-45-14x40-Buckmaster-Riflescope-P42256.aspx

My biggest obstacle in my head is, I just can't get away from the mil-dot, the gun will be mainly used on paper and steel, but could be used to hunt with.  The Nikon BDC seems great, especially with the spot on software, but it doesn't allowing any "doping" for wind.  That's where the mil-dot shines.  I was looking at a Bushnell 3200 elite, but I've read some bad stuff about their customer service.  Another obstacle is money.  I need to get as close to $300 as possible(can get close to $400, but would like to stay a little less, because of rings, mounts, etc).  Here's the Bushnell:

http://swfa.com/Bushnell-5-15x40-Elite-3200-Rifle-Scope-P8748.aspx

Thanks for all your help, I've had "cheap" scopes before and just want a lesser expensive vs cheap.

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This would be better optically than the Bushnell or the Nikon and does have the BDC reticle which will kinda help dope for wind.  It also has turrets to dial in for wind as well
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