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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/20/2014 at 21:28
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My son has the new 5-25×56 ATACR.  It is a very nice scope.   No service issues so far.

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I have a number of Nightforce scopes. I have not had any issues with any of them. But I have talked with their CS department on a few occasions. They were always very helpful and informative. And as far as I am concerned they always answered my questions and then some.
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First, your grammar can make comprehending your posts a bit questionable.  If you speak like you write, I think I see problem number one that can be addressed.

Next, how are they to know your needed ring height?  The deals I have seen that include rings usually give you a choice of ring heights, maybe your deal did not, but I don't count it against them that they didn't want to replace rings they included in a package deal.

Finally, I have a 2.5-10x42 and love it, have also owned the 3-15 and 5.5-22NXS, both were great scopes.  I think I called them a time or 2 with questions, and always talked to an actual person, and a person not in India - not that there is anything wrong with people in India.

In reading your first post, it seems you are already on a path and were looking for people who would reinforce your position.  I cannot.

I agree with many who assert Nightforce missed the boat a few times on various scopes regarding specific details; however, I have never had or heard second-hand of anyone who had issues with their customer or technical support.
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My response wasn't personal, or wasn't intended to be.  The grammar can make what seems clear to you not so clear to us.

Next, the only real way to mount a scope to an AR is with mounts made for ARs.  Perhaps your interaction with their customer service was an issue because very few rings will accommodate scoping an AR.  Rings are primarily made for bolt guns.  I have seen many nightforce rings, never a set made for an AR, though they may exist.

Your post seemed leading, as in "a severe disservice was done, and I want to know if anyone else has had problems before I talk about mine", or so it seemed.

If I am understanding you correctly, and you are mounting said scope on an AR platform, I would recommend you keep the rings for another application and consider a cantilever option like a bobro or American Defense recon mount.

My present nightforce sits in an AD recon and works quite nicely.

Not trying to start any fights, just trying to understand the situation and help resolve it.
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In every offer I have seen that offers free rings with a purchase. They offer you a choice that you make. To expect NF to know which rings you need it even if you tell them what it is going on. Is expecting a little too much. Plus there is personal preference.

On the rings you received I am guessing that if you used a riser you would be just fine. Most people who use rings on an AR, use a riser so they can get proper eye relief.

Where I live Nightforce scopes are very popular and I have yet to hear of anyone who was not satisfied with their CS.
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

First, your grammar can make comprehending your posts a bit questionable.  If you speak like you write, I think I see problem number one that can be addressed.



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Have and use heavily 3 Nightforces, 2.5x10, 3.5x15,8x32, --  customer service has been outstanding on all needs. 2.5x10 was reset so many times the lock screw was stripped, replaced free of charge, 3.5 was cranked on so much (sat over 20,000 rds of various 308 and 223) the numbers were worn off the turret and the complete front lenses group had come loose. Turret was replaces and scope reconditioned no charge.

If your having trouble with Nightforce, I can only conclude there is something foggy on your end. Not that your crazy, apparently that is the purpose of your post to clear stuff up. A good thing to keep in mind is that the scope world is pretty competitive. The strides made in the last 10 years in scopes, especially the lower end ones is amazing. the higher end scopes just do the correct stuff longer.

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I have never dealt with Nightforce, so I have no opinion there.

But if you want to use rings on an AR.  Try something like this.  http://swfa.com/IOR-AR15-Flat-Top-Mount-P10813.aspx or http://swfa.com/IOR-AR15-Flat-Top-Mount-P10814.aspx
I used both of those a few years back and they both worked well.

Otherwise as Rancid said, set them aside for another rifle and buy a Bobro or AD recon mount.  I have both and they both work very well. 

Top pic IOR high mount with IOR low rings.  2nd pic, IOR low mount medium Burris rings.  3rd bobro slightly forward.  Bottom pic Bobro extended mount. 








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Nightforce is currently offering a set of their A101 rings with the purchase of a NXS F1 scope. Nowhere do they offer any other ring choice. However I do know of one dealer that will swap out the A101's for whatever you need and another that is offering a $165.00 credit if you do not need or want the rings.

It sounds as if your dealer was not clear on Nightforce's offer of the A101 rings. I think this is something you should be talking with them about, not Nightforce.
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I would just call Nightforce back and ask to swap out the rings again.  More than likely, you will get a different representative who might be willing to go "the extra mile" to take care of a customer.   I seriously doubt that Nightforce has much over $10 to $15 in a set of rings in the worst case.  I can't imagine letting that small of a detail tarnish my image in any way.

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Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

If your having trouble with Nightforce, I can only conclude there is something foggy on your end.


To come to such a conclusion when a person comes here and describes a particular issue with a  manufacturer/comany of scopes is not appropriate I believe. Every one makes mistakes and even if the comany in question is at the very top it does not mean that they are above any critical judgement.

Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

  A good thing to keep in mind is that the scope world is pretty competitive. The strides made in the last 10 years in scopes, especially the lower end ones is amazing. the higher end scopes just do the correct stuff longer.


So it would make more sense to buy a lower end scope? Not a cynical remark or any think like that but I am just wondering.
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There is always criticism of something the company did or didn't do by someone. Nightforces reputation among people who use and know scopes is pretty good. Yup its the foggy on your end.


In selecting a scope one should determine the use, sometimes its just to say you have that particular one. No problem with that, but if you don't like the deal the company has and don't really use the scope that much -- perhaps dropping down a bit in the price structure would alleviate some of the cognitive dissonance that seems to be more of an issue here than the structural integrity of scope manufacturers.


Personally, I bought the scopes before a lot of the new stuff came out. If I were to do it all over I would buy SWFA's variables call it a great day and spend the extra on another gun/bullets/powder/handgun. And yes it does make sense to sometimes a lower end scope

Decide what is your goal/hobby--- shooting, reloading, glass, the guns

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Wow, gas this one ever gone off the rails. I think if those new to the forum read other threads, you will see that most here try to be as helpful as possible.

In re-re-rereading the initial post, it still reads like someone about to air dirty Nightforce laundry. And, though subsequent posts have been complimentary, the first still strikes a decidedly negative note, and it is that note a few addressed.


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Originally posted by REP REP wrote:

Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

I have never dealt with Nightforce, so I have no opinion there.

But if you want to use rings on an AR.  Try something like this.  http://swfa.com/IOR-AR15-Flat-Top-Mount-P10813.aspx or http://swfa.com/IOR-AR15-Flat-Top-Mount-P10814.aspx
I used both of those a few years back and they both worked well.

Otherwise as Rancid said, set them aside for another rifle and buy a Bobro or AD recon mount.  I have both and they both work very
Top pic IOR high mount with IOR low rings.  2nd pic, IOR low mount medium Burris rings.  3rd bobro slightly forward.  Bottom pic Bobro extended mount. 







VERY NICE! I was just about to place an order for that IOR riser when night force contacted me and made it unnecessary.







Good for you. And hopefully you will be able to mount the scope far enough forward to get proper eye relief with just the rings. There is a reason that AR mounts are cantilevered forward. Look at the photos that Supertool posted and see how far forward they are mounted.


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Originally posted by REP REP wrote:

No offense, but where on GODS green earth did you get this from my asking if you have had any experience with Nightforce's customer service etc...


That is a very valid point. Nightforce may make good scopes but that does not mean that there customer service is as good as there product!
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