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Has anyone reloaded the winchester supreme cases? They appear to be nickel plated. I was just wondering if this makes a difference when loading. I have many of these, and am not going to be real happy if I can't use them.
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I have the nickel plated cases. They are fantastic. Hard as steel. They do not stretch, crack or split. I have a 300H&H, which in my old barrel cracked normal cases behind the belt. I have thrown away about 40% after 6-7 reloads. Not the nickel plates, they go on forever and are accurate.
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Not all nickel plated Winchester Supreme cases reload well.  Personally, I have had better than 50% of one-fired and then reloaded cases either split on the neck after being reloaded once or when trying to size to reload.  This was in 243 WSSM cases, and have heard from others having similar problems with the 223 WSSM cases as well.  Have another friend with a 270 WSSM who loses about 10% of reloaded cases everytime he shoots.  A son of one of my hunting buddies just worked for Winchester-Olin as summer intern and told me that they have had and still have problems with the 223 and 243 WSSM cartridge even in the manufacturing plant.  I do agree they sure do clean up "pretty" and look awesome with Combined Technology 55 gr. bullet on top, but I sure get discouraged when I have to throw away brass when they split.  By the way, loads I am using are way under max load recommendations for any reload I have tried.
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Ok, maybe we are talking of different cases. I will photograph my cases and post them so they can be positively ID. Meant to do it anyway for a while now.
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Hi Trigger,
I have about 200 Win. Supreme cases in .308 most of them only get neck sized and have had no problem with them.  I have had to trim them but as of yet (3rd reload) no problems with cracking or any other noteworthy setbacks.
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I understand the larger cases such as 308, 30-06 and 243 Remington have not had problems like I described.  Two guys I coyote hunt with have had so many problems with 25-06 Winchester Supreme nickel plated brass that they will not reload them.  Must be something about neck diameters 6mm or less.  Like I said, my buddy's son who interned with Winchester told me they even problems loading factory stuff in the smaller diameter bullets (like 22-250, 223 WSSM, 243 WSSM and 204 Ruger?).  I know you cannot find Winchester Supreme nickel plated brass for 243 WSSM anywhere, so I think Winchester knows there is a problem with them.
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Originally posted by cnwrobb cnwrobb wrote:

I understand the larger cases such as 308, 30-06 and 243 Remington have not had problems like I described. 


I think you may be right there.  I know a guy who made his own wildcat by necking up a 280 to a 325 and uses the nickel cases exclusively for it.  He said he was breaking a lot of the brass cased necks doing that and has had nothing but good luck with the nickel cases.
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nickel plated 357 cases ( which were really cadmium plated) were thinner and while only lasting a few reloads , went through the dies easier
are the new cases real nickel or is it cadmium???
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are the new cases real nickel or is it cadmium???
 
Be patient, wait for the pictures!Whistling
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Dale, thanks for your patients, bro!
 
Ok first up the siver cases (nickel??). I see they have FC stamped on the back. Would that be Federal Cartridges?
The slight lead marks on the case shoulder is from my first attempt at annealing. The necks have also be outside turned. So they are brass underneath. The loaded ones are 200gr Nosler Part.
 
 
 
Next up is some brass that has had the hell tortured out of them by repeated abuse through a 300H&H.
The one on the left is a fully serviceable brass ready for the next reload and the next one showing the split in front of the webbing, and the other a typical neck split.
 
 
 
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