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I was just recently given a Remington 700 in .270 that I will be hopefully using this year for deer in Missouri, unfortunately I need to get a scope for it first.  Up until now all I have ever used for hunting was a marlin 30-30 with a inexpensive tasco 3-9; so nearly any new scope would be an improvement.  Where I hunt the range will almost never be over 100 yards, however I would like something that would work out to 200 yards just in case.  I guess my main question is in the $50-$100 range is there one scope company/scope that is significatanly better than another?  I have read through all of the other posts in this forum and realize most here recommend $250+ scopes as inexpensive, however, that just isnt in my budget.  Also is anyone familiar with the redhead products, they are apparently a bass pro shop brand and I just wonder who makes their scopes.  Thank you for any responses.

 

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I can suggest a couple of scopes in ~$100 range.  Sightron S1 3-9x40.  I have one and it is a great scope for the money.  Also a Bushnell Trophy 3-9x40 is quite decent.  A friend put one on a 308 CZ and it works just fine.   Another option would be getting a fixed 4x scope.  At right around ~$110 you can get a Weaver K4.  At about $120 yoU can get a Bushnell Legend 2-7x32 and 3-9x40 scopes.  A lot of people like high magnification scopes.  To be honest though I feel that a 4x scope is perfectly acceptable for hunting big game out to 300-350 yards.  If you can extend your price  range a little further there are certainly more options.  Personally, I'd go for a Sightron or a Bushnell Legend.  I'd try to stay away from Tasco, BSA, SImmons, et al as well lower priced Bushnell lines.  I feel that Bushnel Trophy is quite good, but anything below that is questionable.

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redhed is pure crap. to get a hair of quality, you have to spend some money, i simply cant understand why people will buy a POS 100 doller scope, and replace it every year, rather than to spend 200, and never have to replace it. get NO LESS than a simmons WTE 3-9, and i SERIOUSLY advice you to spend some more, and get a burris FF2 3-9x40 with the free spotter, so basically that spotter is a $99 value, so look at it as spending $101 on the scope, and it will last you all your life.

 

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That's certainly a good point.  in a price range of $200-$400 you can get the best performance to money ratio, IMO.   However, if his funds are really limited, it may be worth it to save $100 bucks on the scope and get a better binocular.  Spotting scope is probably not necessary for the hunting he is going to do, but a quality binocular is probably more important than a super-duper scope.

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Thank you for the advice, I will probably get one of the better bushnells.  Although I did find a Nikon at $149, do the make a good scope?  And is the Burris at $200 significantly better than the nikon?

 

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Nikon makes some good scopes.  At $149 you probably found a Nikon Pro-Staff, right?  Bushnell Legend will be a better scope for you.  If you can come up with $200 for a Burris Fullfield II that would certainly be worth the money.  Fullfield II is certainly superior to Nikon Pro-Staff and Buckmaster scopes.   As Cory said, if you buy that FUlfield II with the spotter for 200 bucks, you'll never need another scope again (at least for this rifle).

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yes, by far, i looked through both the prostaffs, and buckmaster 3-9's at galyans, and the reticle was SOOOO fuzzy looking. and you can always put the spotting socpe on ebay.

 

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Well thank you again for the advice.  I bought the Burris FF2 3-9x40.  It really seemed to be contructed better than the others. And I liked the Bullet Drop Recticle, that seemed like it could be useful if I ever did any distance shooting, as long as I remember the drop at what distance.  I also saw a leupold rifleman that seemed to be pretty crappy in comparison with the burris and even the nikon and better bushnell.  Is low end made by someone else?  I always though leupold were very well built.  Thanks again

 

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Good choice!  I don't think you'll regret it.  As for the Rifleman, it is supposed to be made at the same facility as other Leupold scopes.  However, it is pretty lousy optically. They really cut down on glass quality and coatings for these lower end scopes. 

Burris uses the same AR coating on Fullfield II as they do in their high end scopes.  THere is some difference in lens polishing though.  Anyhow, for the money, you can't really do better.

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I would have to agree with redneckbmxer as far as scope quality and "why anyone would look to cut down on quality in the realm of sub $200.00 scopes.?? 

         I figure it this way.  The hunting I do is for pure pleasure and to put meat in the freezer... So glad that I can do both at the same time.  The shot I might have to make is truly dependant on whether or not the game animal is in good view, and I can distinguish what it is from far away, as well as, whether the shot is safe and can be pulled off from my position.  If I have to worry about the edge to edge clarity, the scope fogging and being useless, or the zero to shift as I raise magnification, then I might as well save time and go to the butcher... You only ever really get what you pay for....   

         I am 39 and my eyes are not what they used to be...  A fact of life.  I, too, once never thought that I could justify a $250.00 + scope on something that I did for pure fun, until one season when I really got into groundhogs.  I am from PA and not far from the Fraudulent Phil from Punxsy, PA.... I hunted his kind hard every Saturday two years ago with a Bushnell 3200 in 4-12 X and noticed that I was getting headaches at the end of the day.  ( I could not justify spending money on optical accessories, like a  binocular either!)  Because I spent all that money on a scope for killing critters...I killed 70 that year. 

          But one Saturday, I said. "Hmmmmm, I wonder if I can get rid of these headaches with a better scope?"  So I went to my local gunshop and did some side by side testing.... Laying out every scope made, realizing that I would never put a Swarovski PH @ $1200.00 + on my varmint gun I eliminated all but the Leupold's in the realm of high end scopes... I kept the headache going by looking through the Bushnell as a baseline for optical clarity.  When I got to the Leupold Vari X III line that is when my headache disappeared, so I traded the Bushnell in for the Leupold; spent an additional $240.00 and have never regretted my decision to this day.

           If you spend $450.00 + for a rifle expect to spend as much, or more for a quality scope.  Is a good rule of thumb that I have learned the hard way, by always losing money on my trade ins...

             Just my two cents.

                 Chasseur106

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I too have found that the Burris Signature series to be equal to the Leupold Vari X III line of scopes.  I have two Burris Signatures and two Leupold Vari X III's, as well as some Vari X II's that I know I will never part with, or want to part with.  So I hope that you are happy with your Burris Fullfield II and Ballistic Plex reticle.  I have just bought one in 4-16 with BMD for my '06, and know that with practice, I will be as equally suited to sub 100 yard deer as I am to plus 300 yard Elk.  The biggest thing is to practice.

          And keep tight groups!

                    Blessings to you,

                            Chasseur106

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jeremy, you will not regret your purchase of the FF2, it is one aweosme scope for the money, and for the price range, you cannot beat it. chassuer, i completley agree with your statement "If you spend $450.00 + for a rifle expect to spend as much, or more for a quality scope." it is a very good rule to live by. but.... in his case he was given the rifle, so wouldnt spending $5 on a scope qualify as spending more on the scope, than the gun....lol....

 

cory

 

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