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Hello all,

 

I would appreciate any input before I start dropping all this cash.  I have been away from rifles for about ten years now.  When I was in the military I shot on the base team over iron sights.  Seems civilian life offers the sport in other flavors.  The local range allows high powered rifle at 100 and 200 yards.  I also expect to hunt whitetail on terrain where shots are under 200 yards.  I am ordering a savage 12BVSS  .243 and looking at leupolds VX-III.  I guess my questions really center around magnification.

 

1.  Is the 2.5-8x36 a good choice?

2.  What power spotting scope is sufficient for seeing bullet holes at the 200?

 

Thanks in advance for your help

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That scope would be almost perfect for what you are looking to do. The smaller 36mm bell will allow you to mount the scope close enough so you can get a good cheek weld with the savage stock. If you plan on getting a different stock at some point you might want to look into something with a bigger bell to get some more light transmission.  A friend of mine has a Schmidt & Bender 1.5-6 x 42 and it seems to be the perfect scope for anything in your target range. Granted that is a 1400 dollar scope but it would be ideal for what you describe.

As for the spotting scope, at 200 yards I can see impact points clearly with my 10x scope, anything over 10x will be more than enough power for spotting at 200 yards.

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Thanks for the info.  Didn't get too much feed back here.  Maybe I should have used a more provacative title
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Under 200 yards, you do not need all that much magnification fro shooting at whitetail deer.  The Leupold is a good scope and should serve you well.  I can also recommend a Burris Signature Seleect 1.5-6x40 if you like that magnification range.  Schmidt&Bender scopes are great but very expensive.  You can generally get more for the money in the under $500 range without sacrficing mch real world performance. 

 

The most common magnification range for deer hunting rifles is 3-9x40 which is generally the best compromise for different taskes.  Every manufacturer offers something of that type: Burris SIgnature Select 3-10x40, Bushnell Elite 4200 2.5-10x40, Sightron S2 3-12x42 and Weaver Grand Slam 3-10x40 would be my recommendations there.  These scopes have sufficient low end magnification for close up shots and enough high-end magnification for paper punching and long shots.

 

I am a bit surprised with your choice of a Savage 12BVSS for whitetails.  It is a 10 pound, 26" heavy-barrelled varmint gun, which is wonderfully accurate, but is pain in the ass to lug around with you for deer hunting.  Are you sure you would not be better off with a lighter rifle?

 

Ilya

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

 

I am a bit surprised with your choice of a Savage 12BVSS for whitetails.  It is a 10 pound, 26" heavy-barrelled varmint gun, which is wonderfully accurate, but is pain in the ass to lug around with you for deer hunting.  Are you sure you would not be better off with a lighter rifle?

 

Ilya

 

 

You are not the first one to tell me that.  My logic is this.. if I am shooting paper all year, and deer for a week, I can deal with it.  I am in the trades and have been accostomed to the loads.  The pencil barrells just heat up to quick for consistant accurracy.  If I hate it..well I'll just have to buy another rifle.

 

Thanks for the reply

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If it works for you, great. 

 

I've got a Savage 12FV in 22-250 and it shoots great, but I would not want to lug the bloody thign up and down the hill (of course with a varminter stock and a pretty big scope it probably weighs around 14-15lbs).

 

Ilya

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I'm not say'in you wrong.  Time will tell.  I've been stomp'in birds for a while and the o/u has never been a issue.  That comes in around seven.   half of what this rifle will. 

 

If I didn't learn anything the hard way, I wouldn't have Learned anything at all.  It's just that if I start talk'in about another firearm before I get this one out, I'm gonna be one lonley SOB.

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Lmao I know what you mean about being lonely man, I went from flying $400-$700 r/c airplanes to this. I just purchased a rifle and i'm thinking of getting a leupold LR/T for it and I don't know how am gonna lay it on her I've gone through many bad experiences if you know what i mean
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This is what happens to new guys (cherries) that fail to post pics of their new rifle/scope combos when they get them.

Thought you'd like it.

 

Welcome aboard...

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CT, 

 

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lol, nice

 

Give me some time time to get mt act together gunny,



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Per your request,

 

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I could have never done this without a scope.  I think I'm having fun.  I hope I dont start getting serious and screw that up. 

 

 

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Good stuff!!

Thanks, Marine!!

 

Nice rifle. Tell me about the bi-pod.

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It's from B-Square.  It was the only one I could find in silver.  But I have to tell you, I am pleasantly suprised by the quality.  A very simple design.  It is real solid and mounted to the existing sling mount.  It  stays in the position you put it in without alot of movement.  It also has it's own sling mount underneath.  I ordered direct (which means I paid MSRP) and with shipping it came to about 107.00

 

http://secure.armorholdings.com/b-square/bipods.html

 

I'm happy with the VX-III.  I think I just need more time to work with it.  Those shots were my fourth group after bore sighting.  And I know I'm gonna get flamed for this, but I didn't find the focus lock until I got home.  I really have to start reading my manuals. lol

 

More to come

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