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Hi,

 

I've been doing some reading here for a while. I'd like to get a middle of the road priced scope for target shooting on my 20" HBAR AR15 and FAL. I think I'm leaning toward the new Simmons Master Series Aetec 4-14x44. From what I've read, that seems like a lot of scope for $215.

 

1. Has anyone heard anything recently about the availability of these scopes?

 

2. What mount/ring setup would you guys recommend? Both my AR and FAL have a standard weaver rail. The AR is an A3 type with the carry handle removed, so I probably need a slightly higher base to get above the front sight.

 

I have an ARMS #22M68 and Aimpoint ML2 on my M4 style rifle. I really like the throw lever design of the ARMS mount.

 

Thanks for any advice.

 

Eric

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/03/2005 at 20:00
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Well, I think I want a variable power scope. I'll be shooting anywhere from 50 yards to 200 yards. I was thinking about a Bushnell Elite 3200, but after reading about the new Simmons AETEC, I think that's they way I'll go.

 

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Nothing wrong with the ATEC but you can get a better scope in the sub $300 price range. I would take any of these 4 over the ATEC any time. A good 3 to 9 power variable would give more than enough magnification needed at 200 yards

Weaver Grand Slam 3-10x40 $249.95


Burris Fullfield II 3-9x40 + 20x50 landmark spoting scope $197.95

Burris Fullfield II 3-9x40 + 8x32 landmark binoculars $199.95

Nikon 3-9x40 Monarch UCC Riflescope $299.95


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Add Sightron S2 3-12x42 to the list.  It is available with a couple of reticles (MilDot and Duplex) and is, IMO, better than all other scopes mentioned in this thread.

For the ultimate bang for the buck SIghtron S2 3-9x42 can be had for around $200 with a duplex reticle.  Nothing in that price range comes close optically.

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Thanks for all the input. Like I said, I'm very new to this and really appreciate you guys taking the time to give me some advice.

 

Now I'm looking at the Burris Fullfield scopes too. Does anyone have this setup:

 

http://www.swfa.com/products/200183PKG/burris_fullfield_ii_4 .5-14x42.htm

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Ookster, I have no experience with the 4.5x14 Burris Fullfield II, but I do have 2 of the 3x9 Fullfield II's with the Ballistic Plex reticle and am very happy with them.  I am trying to figure out how to convince my wife that I need to get a 4.5x14.  I wish they offered it with the free binocular instead of the spotting scope.  Hmmm, maybe I need to buy another rifle, which would then require another scope.  Don't you love it when a plan comes together?  Truly, my only regret about the 3x9 FFII is that I could use more magnification for my .270WSM when trying to shoot rockchucks at 300 yards.  At 9x, they are a little small.
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Thanks 2ndtimer. Of course you need another rifle and another scope to go with it. I don't even know you, but even I can see that.

 

I think I am going to get the 4-14x42 Fullfield II package deal. I don't have a spotting scope, and even though that's not the nicest spotter in the world, it still makes it a nice deal.

 

What mount/ring setup do you have? And did the Fullfield II come with any kind of lens covers? I might like to get a set of flip up lens covers for it. Thanks.

 

Eric

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My FFII's came with some crude scope covers, hard plastic disks with rubber bands.  Not the Uncle Mike flip ups or even the soft rubber kind that actually seal against the eyepiece and objective.  If you plan on hunting in foul weather some better protection would be in order to try to keep the lenses dry.
As for mounting, my model 70 Super Shadow has Leupold STD bases and medium height rings, while the Howa in 6.5x55 has Leupold Rifleman bases and medium rings (similar to the weaver bases and rings).  Both seem to work okay.  Be careful if you go the Butler Creek flip up scope caps.  I bought a couple of sets for mine and while the chart was accurate for the eyepiece, the chart for the objective caps gave me ones that were too large and don't fit.  Useless and unfortunately purchased at a store that doesn't accept returns..

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