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I am new to the forum today, i have been searching it a lil bit lately and am impressed with the knowledge and help you guys have so i decided to join so you guys could help me out a lil bit.
 
I have a decent set of older bushnell elite 10x42 binos that i use a lot but i need to get me a good spotter.  I have an old winchester that was given to me and it just don't quite do the job.  I do a lot of hunting, both bow and rifle, and pre and post season spotting.  I do alot of hillside watching at ranges of 1000 yards or more, but also some closer stuff. 
 
I have kind of narrowed down a list and i would like to hear you guys' opinions.  I would love to get something nice like a swaro or zeiss or kowa or something, but i'm recently married and cant afford that stuff so i am gonna try and budget one for around the 500 dollar range or so if possible. The ones i am looking at are-
  -Nikon Prostaff
  -Vortex Skyline ED
  -Cabelas Big Sky HD
  -Bushnell Elite
       Excursion FLP
I'm thinking probably 20-60 power.  I also have a hookup to get leupold scopes, but haven't really been impressed with the reviews. 
 
Thanks for the help.
  
 
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These are getting fantastic reviews at this price range.
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If i went with the excursion flp, do you think i would be better with a 15-45x60, or the 20-60x80?
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smok97,  I'd go with the 80mm obj if low light viewing is important, and portability is not a big issue.  If you're a serious backpack hunter, etc you may want the smaller ones.  My buddy bought the 15-45x60 and it is excellent for general deer hunting that we do.  You will see more details, have higher resolution, and a brighter view in low light with the 80mm.  Good luck. 
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I checked out the 15-45  Excursion and was impressed. I just wasn't sure I would be able to see .223 holes in the black at 300yds reliably. The power was my issue with this Excursion. If the 20-60x80 Excursion is as clear and crisp as the 15-45 I would be very tempted.
I would really like to check out the Nikon Prostaff, I've read some good reviews about it.
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I went to the local cabelas and tried out a couple scopes.  I tried the nikon prostaff 16-48x65 and two of the cabelas big sky 20-60x66, one in hd one regular.  They didn't have time to take them outside so i could only do it in the store.  I couldn't really tell a difference between the two cabelas scopes,  but there was pretty good lighting so it wasn't much of a test but that nikon i thought had better clarity, both in low and high zoom.  I put the cabelas to 20 and the nikon to what i thought would be about 20 and then the same with the high and it looked like it had better glass.  The other thing i liked about the nikon is they are a lot lighter. 
Any other input on any of these scopes? I am still undecided on what to get.  What do you guys think about the vortex scopes?
And how much is there to gain from ed to regular glass?
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Just an FYI, make sure you look through them outside. Some scopes have coatings that make them appear much better in the store light, but not as good outside.
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So i think i am either gonna go with the nikon 16-48x65 or one of the bushnell excursions.  What are your guys opinions? which one should i go with?
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I like the bushy out of those two.
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I have the Bushnell excursion FLP and it is a great scope for the money.
 
I think you would have to spend a lot more to get a better spotting scope, it is bright and clear easy to adjust etc.  If money is not a consideration then I would jump on this one
 
 
but usually money is a consideration.
 
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I test-drove the 15x45 Excursion with ED glass out to two miles. I could make out some pretty good detail with it but wouldn't be able to count tines at that distance. Likely no problem at 1 mile though. To me, just about any spotter is too heavy and not worth hauling so I'd prefer a 20-60x80. At high magnification you want that thing as solid as possible...like window-mounted in your truck. The one time I ever brought one elk hunting was when I had someone else to carry it and we'd steady it on logs or a pack.

The one I'd likely buy is the Vortex Skyline. I haven't looked through the ED version but even the regular glass is pretty nice. They're decently priced and have rock-solid customer support.
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I just found a lead on a Swarovski 20-60x65 non hd, not sure what model but i think its an sts, from a guy i know who wants to trade it for a suzuki samurai.  It also comes with a manfrotto tripod-ball style, manfrotto window mount, soft case, hard case, and a camera adapter.   The scope is a year or two old, but is in great shape he says.  I haven't actually seen it yet. 
How much is this stuff worth?  I have got two samurai's, so i am thinking about doing it just wanna make sure its worth it.  Or should i keep my samurai and buy a cheaper scope?
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That Swaro 65 setup would be super.  I think the scope alone would fetch $1300-$1500 or so.   Manfrotto doesn't give stuff away either, and it's excellent quality .  Just guessing, but that's probably a $1700 package.  
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So i ended up getting the Swarovski scope. I am excited to take it out and look through it tomorrow..  Thanks everyone for the help.
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