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My wife and I have been hunting a total of 2 years now and the forum was a great resource when I was first getting started as I had a lot of optics questions.

Just wanted everyone's opinion on this:

My wife drew into Idaho Unit 44 this year which is a supposedly great unit.  She hasn't harvested a muley yet.  As our budgets are tight we only had money to get a good scope/mounting system on my .300 WM a few years ago.  So I have a nice Burris with Leupold rings.

She'll be hunting with her 243 as she doesn't want to use my 300 with good optics.  We have a older Tasco 4x on hers that was accurate as of last season.  With her good draw I started worrying more about her optics not being up to snuff.  It's an older Tasco that came with the 243 that was handed down.  We simply sighted it in and went from there.  It was accurate enough but with drawing into a good unit I'm getting paranoid.  We never had problems with it fogging or not holding a zero on our last hunt. 

My father-in-law offered to let us use his Leupold Rifleman with the QRW rings (weaver style  to throw on her 243 for the season (I was laid off and will be returning to college at 30 so our budget is tight).

http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-shooting/products/mounting-systems-and-accessories/mounting-systems/qrw-mounts/

On my .300 WM I blew threw 2 crappy scopes before I finally ponied up the money for a good scope that could handle the recoil.  I was given good advice here on a good scope and ring/base style that would stay solid on that rifle.  It's worked great.

What's everyone's opinion on the QRW rings/bases?  I've heard folks claim that the quick release rings aren't solid enough for a magnum and are a risk to shift and screw accuracy.   Since a 243 is so light I assume it would work fine but want to get everyone's insight before spending the money to buy QRW bases to put on her gun. 

Is it a dependable option for a low powered hunting rifle or should I be going with a different ring/base combo?
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I had a QRW failure, but it was on a big kicker with a big scope.

http://www.opticstalk.com/leupold-qrw-failure_topic24573.html

Like I mention in the thread, I lost confidence in QRW rings, and switched to TPS.  I have not regretted it.


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Thanks for the info Bitterroot.  Not what I was hoping to hear but honest assessments are what I'm looking for.  You mentioned it was on a big rifle/scope.  Maybe it'd do fine on the 243? 

Then again, from your post it sounds like it was a just a failure plain and simple and would have happened regardless of what it was mounted on.
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Sounds like a tough situation in a couple ways. I guess if her dad is willing to lend the scope indefinitely (or give it to you) then the $50 for the QRW setup might be worth it. The Rifleman (no offense) is not going to be a tremendous replacement for the fixed 4X Tasco. But on a .243 that setup would probably cause no problems.

My advice is to spend the $50 or whatever you can on some ammo and range time with her. You'll have fun and the more she (or anybody) shoots the more likely a good deer within 25-200 yards will end up in the sights and in the freezer. As long as that 4X is at least like my 35-year-old Bushnell I'd trust it for those ranges.
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I'd be paranoid too. IMO, you need a better scope (the Rifleman is not a winner IMO) in good mounts. Why chance it? Besides, you'll feel terrible if her gear fails at the wrong time...and costs her a buck. Just my $.02.
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Considering your situation financially I say leave the scope that is on there where it is. I base this on the fact that it has probably been sighted in on that rifle already. I have had several of the Tasco scopes and mine have held up pretty good for being cheap scopes. At some time in the future when you have more money you can buy her a better scope.  If however   you choose to borrow Dads scope that has the Leupold quick release rings on it you would be buying the correct base and one like a WARNE or TPS etc would be something you could use later on with other non quick release rings like TPS etc.
Of the not too expensive bases I really like the Talley lightweight ringmounts the best as they have four screws holding each ring and the base and ring is one piece.  If you chose to pick up the correct Talley ringmount you would be able to use it with a different one inch tube scope later when you gave Dad his scope back.
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Don't think of it as a cheap old Tasco. Think of it as a proven, reliable scope.

Have you checked the price on a new Burris Fullfield II 2-7x35?

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I also agree with Wes and Shenko.  Leave it as is, your wife is familiar with the setup and the scope has proven to be reliable. 4x should be more than adequate for a 200yd shot and with the money saved, spend some on range time.
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I agree with the rest of the guys. I kind of doubt the Leupold Rifleman is much of an upgrade from the old Tasco. I've never used a Rifleman, but I have had several of the VX-I's and they just aren't that great of a scope, nor would I really trust one on a hunting trip. So I kind of doubt I'd go that route, but that's just my opinion. I sure wouldn't spend $50 to get the gun setup for the mounts for it.

Where is your Tasco made? I know the older Japanese ones were supposed to be pretty decent scopes.

Honestly, I'd just take that $50 and try to add another $50 or so and get try to find a used Burris Fullfield II or something like that for around that price. If you can't do that, I'd more than likely just keep using the Tasco that's on it unless something is wrong with it. In which case, I might would try the Rifleman, but I see no advantage to it over the Tasco as long as the Tasco is working fine.

EDIT, just saw it was someone else that threw the $50 number out there not you. My opinion is still the same though. If you can get into the $100 range I'd look for a deal on a used Burris FFII and don't be afraid to negotiate, or I'd keep the Tasco if I couldn't afford that. 

If you think you may want a FFII and think you can swing around that price shoot me a pm.


Edited by slowr1der - August/08/2011 at 23:16
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