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    Posted: March/18/2012 at 07:48
I've been shooting open sights for over 40 years, mostly with older military rifles. I ordered a new Remington Model 700 XCR II in .280 Remington and I'm planning to get a Savage 110BA in 300 Winchester Magnum later this year. I want to do some longer range target shooting, but I'm new to scopes and could use some advice. I've been shopping around on-line and come across scopes using either MRAD or MOA adjustments. Could someone explain the advantages/disadvantages of each adjustment type? I'm looking for a scope up to the $800 range. I like what I've read about the Sightron scopes as they seem to be considered a good value. In particular, the Sightron SIII 3.5-10X44 LRMD and LRMD/CM would be in my price range and they have good reviews from what I've seen. One has the MOA adjustments and the other MRAD. I'm open to other suggestions as well. Just trying to get educated on scopes and their use.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cheaptrick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/18/2012 at 08:09
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When you say "long range", how far do you anticipate shooting? 
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Well, i'm not sure what the definition of long range is here, but 750 yards would probably be what I'm looking at. I do all of my shooting at my brother's farm.
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I have gotten good results with the SIGHTROH 6-24 LRMD out to 1200 yards ... but the reticle is annoying.  The mildots are calibrated for 24x and they are HUGE.  The MOA model reticle looks much better but they center of the crosshairs is a dot ... some like that some don't.  The turrents are very repeatable and they scope has held up fine on a 338 EDGE. 
 
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I called Sightron today and they were very helpful in answering all of my questions. They didn't try to talk me into going with one of their scopes. Just provided me with information on their products and armed me with information that would assist me in making a good choice for my application. I was also impressed that a human being answered the phone and thought the customer service was excellent. Still shopping around, but Sightron seems like a good copany with fine products.
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Originally posted by 2gumby2 2gumby2 wrote:

I called Sightron today and they were very helpful in answering all of my questions. They didn't try to talk me into going with one of their scopes. Just provided me with information on their products and armed me with information that would assist me in making a good choice for my application. I was also impressed that a human being answered the phone and thought the customer service was excellent. Still shopping around, but Sightron seems like a good copany with fine products.


They are indeed! Good luck.
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If this is for long range target why dont you start with this and see how you like it then work up from there as these hold their trade value pretty good.  I suspect you will eventually be in the $2000 + price range on a scope but this is a good place to start.  They should be available in the next 60 days I pre- ordered one and have had almost every magnification made in the old 1/4 moa mil dot style this is a huge improvement it is awesome having the clicks be in the same increment as the reticle. Shoot a hole in the target measure from where the hole is to where you want it to be using the reticle as a ruler and dial in the correction and next one is in the X if you measured correctly. Mil Mil is a good thing.
SWFA SS 16x42 Tactical Riflescope SWFA SS 16x42 Tactical Riflescope
Stock # - SS16X42MQ
  • Matte Finish
  • Patented Mil-Quad Reticle
  • 30mm Tube
  • Rear Focus
  • OK for .50 cal
  • .10 Mrad
  • Coming soon, accepting pre orders
$299.95 

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If you have the money to do it right the first time this is what I would pick:
SWFA SS 5-20x50 Tactical 30mm Riflescope SWFA SS 5-20x50 Tactical 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - SSHD520X50MQ
  • Patented First Focal Plane Mil-Quad Reticle
  • 30mm
  • HD Model
  • Locking Ocular Adjustment
  • 0.1 Mrad Elevation & Windage
  • 10 Mils Per Revolution
  • 30 Mils Of Total Travel
  • Side Focus
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Other possibles:
US Optics 3.2-17x44 SN-3 30mm Riflescope US Optics 3.2-17x44 SN-3 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - USOSN3E   Excellent
  • Matte Black Type III hard Anodizing
  • Illuminated Mil-Scale GAP Reticle
  • 30mm
  • Low Profile - Rapid Focus Eyepiece
  • 11 Pos Rheostat (Red) Illumination
  • EREK 1/10 MIL Elevation Knob
  • US#3 1/10 MIL Windage Knob
  • T-Pal Left Side Parallax/Focus
$2,659.95
Zeiss 4-16x56 Tactical Hensoldt Telescopic 34mm Sight Zeiss 4-16x56 Tactical Hensoldt Telescopic 34mm Sight
Stock # - ZEIZF416FFCCW  Yippee
  • Matte
  • First Focal Plane Illuminated Mil-Dot
  • 34mm
  • Side Focus
  • 0.1 MRAD
  • Counter Clockwise Target Knobs
  • Contract Overrun
  • Limited Quantities Available
$3,462.95 
Weaver 4-20x50 Tactical 30mm Rifle Scope Mil-Dot Weaver 4-20x50 Tactical 30mm Rifle Scope
Stock # - 800360
  • Matte
  • Mil-Dot
  • 30mm
  • Side Focus
  • First Focal Plane Reticle
$799.95 
Vortex 4-16x50 Viper PST 30mm Rifle Scope Vortex 4-16x50 Viper PST 30mm Rifle Scope
Stock # - PST416F1M
  • Matte
  • EBR-1 Mil Reticle
  • 30mm
  • First Focal Plane Reticle
  • .10 Mil Adjustments
$899.95 
IOR 4-14x50 Tactical 30mm Rifle Scope IOR 4-14x50 Tactical 30mm Rifle Scope
Stock # - 414531
  • Matte
  • Illuminated MP-8 Dot
  • 30mm
  • Second Focal Plane
  • Exposed Knobs
  • Side Focus
  • MIl Adjustments
$1,219.95 
Leupold 6.5-20x50 Mark 4 LR/T 30mm Riflescope Leupold 6.5-20x50 Mark 4 LR/T 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - LEU60080
  • Matte
  • Tactical Milling Reticle
  • 30mm
  • Side Focus
  • M1 Target Knobs
  • Free Leupold Flip-Open Lens Covers
  • Includes FREE Leupold Boresighter
$1,299.95 

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Thanks for the recommendations. I'm trying to stay around the $800 range. Aside from Sightron, I'm also looking at SWFA, Vortex Viper PST series, Burris MTAC, and Bushnell Elite Tactical. Still shopping around and reading reviews.
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