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I know, I know, ... not another 'which scope please help' post!

 

But I think I have it narrowed down to two or possibly three choices, and would like to hear some testimonials for those who have used or compared the scopes I'm talking about.

 

Looking at upgrading the scope on my Ruger .22-250 for coyotes. The 'ol tasco just doesn't gather enough light at the end of the day for those frequent twilight shots. Often have shot opportunities of 300 yds plus so need up to 14 -15 power range. So I'm looking for good low light clarity and durability as two very important factors.  Should stay at 40mm cause I don't want to have to change up the rings on my Ruger (more $$$)

 

Approx $300 budget so considering:

 

a. Bushhell Elite 3200 5-15 X 40. Have one in 3-9 that I like so clarity and durability shouldn't be an issue. Prefer the mildot for this app but don't like the big turrets. Don't like the  objective adjustment out at the end. By the specs looks like good eye relief. Free jacket.

 

b. Nikon buckmaster 4.5-14 X 40. like the side focus for the AO. I think the new BDC would work well in this app. Would appreciate comments on low-light clarity and durability.

 

And what about a Sightron II? I read mixed reviews. 4-16 X 42 would fall in this class, looks like a little more $$. 

 

I'm going a little nuts trying to make this decision, so would appreciate your comments, Thanks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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BUSHNELL ELITE 3200 is my pick
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I just bought the 3200 elite you mention for a savage 22-250 varmint gun. Maybe I just got a lemon but it wouldn't adjust for zero parallax at any point in the adjustment range. Eye position was super critical at above 12X also. I called bushnell and they said they had experienced some problems with parrallax on this scope and offered to repair it for me. I instead returned it on their "no questions asked return" and recieved my $ back in six weeks. I have a 4x16x40 4200 elite on another 22-250 and wouldn't part with it for anything (no parallax or eye position problems at all). The sightron S2 will have better optics but will probably be more $. No experience with the nikonbut would expect the sightron to have superior optics again. With the elite return policy your safe in buying one and seeing what you think.....you'll just be out some time if you have to return it.

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4.5-14X Buckmasters oughtta be nice. If u get it with the mil-dot, the milliradian is calibrated for 12X and the Nikon catalog gives the subtensions for 14X as well. Oughtta be a nice system for longer range coyotes. I use a 223 AI AR for coyotes, and i use this scope for longer ranges if needed--

 

http://www.rapidreticle.com/22lr3-9x32.htm

 

 

 

 

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4.5-14X Buckmasters oughtta be nice. If u get it with the mil-dot, the milliradian is calibrated for 12X and the Nikon catalog gives the subtensions for 14X as well. Oughtta be a nice system for longer range coyotes. I use a 223 AI AR for coyotes, and i use this scope for longer ranges if needed--

 

 

So you'd go with the mildot in this scope over the bdc?

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SIghtron S2 is a better way to go than Buckmaster or Elite 3200

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I would go with Ilya's advice over mine. I'm into reticles for long-range shooting, but Ilya knows about the quality issues way better than i do. Buckmasters is a decent scope for the money, and at least for me either reticle would be a toss-up. I like the fact that the mil-dot in that scope can be applied at a higher magnification more accurately, but the BDC may be better intuitively, since it is designed to be a trajectory compensating reticle, and the mil-dot isn't.

 

As a coyote hunter myself, i know that it would be handy to be able to apply the reticle quickly if needed, and therefore i'd probably give a slight edge to the BDC over the mil-dot.



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I used to be a big fan of trajectory compensating reticles, but I have changed my opinion.  I much prefer Mil-based reticles, such as Mil-Dot or MP8.  I can compensate for range with a MilDot reticle just as easily as I can with BDC reticle or similar.  However, when I need to adjust to a different load or to a different magnification (important for SFP scopes), MilDot is much easier for me to use.

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I've recently been looking at the Bushnell Elite 3200 in 7-21 X 40.

 

Does anybody know anything positive or negative about this particular model.

 

Also what about the discontinued Browning scopes. Is it accurate that they are identical to the elite 3200's?

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Man u have been looking around some. That's the scope i've been looking at lately myself. It's only 12.8" OAL, and that's actually shorter than the 5-15X u listed before. I like portability in my varmint rigs, and would sacrifice some for that. If the mil-dot in that scope is calibrated for a lower power (probably is) it would be an excellent system for longer ranges with smaller subtensions (better accuracy, and better rangefinding) at the scope's highest power. Just waiting for 1 of the gurus here to respond to my post in the riflescopes area.



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are you just shooting pdogs or do you shoot coyotes as well?
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Coyotes only.

 

No pdogs in my part of the praires, just the smaller Richardson ground squirrels and I use a .17 hmr for them...

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i wouldnt use anything over 4x on the lowest setting for hunting coyotes especially if i was hunting alone, in a group of a couple of people it wouldnt be an issue, but a coyote at 30 ft is awful big in the scope at 7x just my advice.
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Yeah I thought about that alright and it's good advice.

 

I like to set up with some room and sniper shoot them at a distance. I guess that's just my style.

 

But I know anything can and will happen when calling..

 

Thanks for the advice

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i dont blame you at all i myself hunt with a couple of people and i dont think much about that phantom coyote sneaking up on the guy with the higher powered scope, but for me i feel a lot more comfortable with a plain old 3x9 or 4x14 just in case you get one in real close.
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