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Sako has a new rifle on the market to replace the Sako75 called the A7.
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So how is this differant than the model 85?
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With a sugg. retail of $850......... I wonder what it will sell for?  Thats a pretty good price for a Sako!
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I'll take one stainless 308 to go please ....thanks
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The 85 replaced the 75.  This rifle looks to be geared toward a lower price point alternative to the 85 in a synthetic stocked only version to compete with the M700's, M70's of the world price-wise.
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I wonder what the diffrences are from synthetic stainless 85 version, or if its just lower quality?
 
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The fact it's priced lower than the 85 doesn't necessarily mean it would be lower quality.  Maybe they just simplified the action and offer fewer options, both of which would lower manufacturing costs.  From that link, it appears it is only available in 2 action lengths and only with a synthetic stock.  I like the fact it is departing with the tapered scope mount bases.  I couldn't tell from the link whether or not the Weaver style bases were integral, as on the T/C Icon or if they were separate bases that just happen to come already bolted on the receiver.  It would be a huge improvement if those bases were integral with the receiver!  I'd imagine the action would be very similar to the 85 action, given that it has a 3 lug bolt.  But, since they are new and I've never seen one, all of this is just speculation.

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2 piece bolt would cut manufact. costs considerabley.
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if 2 piece is different, what is standard for SAKO?  I'd wouldn't mind the 7-08, but wish they made it in a .260 or the european equivalent (6.5 X55?)!
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Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

if 2 piece is different, what is standard for SAKO?  I'd wouldn't mind the 7-08, but wish they made it in a .260 or the european equivalent (6.5 X55?)!
 
me too! i would take a 7-08 to since they dont have a 6.5mm offering
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Looks like the Sako A7 is the mirror model to the Tikka T3.  I'm a fan of the T3 layout; so this model should be a bonus.
 
 
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I agree with noddah.  It bears a striking resemblance to a Tikka T3.

 
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Originally posted by Wally Wally wrote:

I agree with noddah.  It bears a striking resemblance to a Tikka T3.

 
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Except the T3 has a 2-lug bolt, and this A7 has 3 lugs like the 75 & 85.
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+ 1 for the tikka
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No doubt the Beretta marketing machine is looking to close out the Tikka brand, and make it a "lower end" Sako.
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Fishinado,
 
No offense, but I hope you are wrong about that.  I guess the Beretta marketing gurus beleive if they add the name "Sako" to it, that will allow them to price it for more!  Whacko  Big%20Grin
 
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Edited by Wally - February/02/2008 at 16:34
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I hope I am, but I doubt it!  The A7 looks a lot like the T3.  What else could they be up to?
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The current Tikka is basically the old Sako design, with two locking lugs.  Now that the Sako 85 is out, the previous 75 designed can be "cheapend" a bit (two piece bolt), now with three locking lugs.  Viola!  New old gun!!Break%20Dance
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Originally posted by Fishinado Fishinado wrote:

The current Tikka is basically the old Sako design, with two locking lugs.  Now that the Sako 85 is out, the previous 75 designed can be "cheapend" a bit (two piece bolt), now with three locking lugs.  Viola!  New old gun!!Break%20Dance
 
The current Tikka is nothing like the old 2-lug Sako, which had a full length guide rib/bolt race baffle and an entirely different trigger assy and safety design than the Tikka.  The Tikka action is no more similar to the old Sako than it is the Howa 1500.  Sako and Tikka is made in the same manufacturing plant and their barrels are made on the same hammer forging machines.  They both use the same extractor and similar triggers.  Other than those things, they are not similar.
 
The 75 bolt also has 3 lugs just like the 85.  The only difference between the 75 and 85 bolts is the 85 has part of the bolt face enclosure removed for the controlled round feed feature, a differently shaped bolt shroud, and additional guiding surfaces on the side of the lugs.
 
I don't think this rifle is intended to replace the Tikka T3 at all.  The Tikka is still Sako's "bargain" rifle.  It's a good rifle, but it doesn't directly compete with Sako.
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Originally posted by Fishinado Fishinado wrote:

The current Tikka is basically the old Sako design, with two locking lugs.  Now that the Sako 85 is out, the previous 75 designed can be "cheapend" a bit (two piece bolt), now with three locking lugs.  Viola!  New old gun!!Break%20Dance
 
The current Tikka is nothing like the old 2-lug Sako, which had a full length guide rib/bolt race baffle and an entirely different trigger assy and safety design than the Tikka.  The Tikka action is no more similar to the old Sako than it is the Howa 1500.  Sako and Tikka is made in the same manufacturing plant and their barrels are made on the same hammer forging machines.  They both use the same extractor and similar triggers.  Other than those things, they are not similar.
 
The 75 bolt also has 3 lugs just like the 85.  The only difference between the 75 and 85 bolts is the 85 has part of the bolt face enclosure removed for the controlled round feed feature, a differently shaped bolt shroud, and additional guiding surfaces on the side of the lugs.
 
I don't think this rifle is intended to replace the Tikka T3 at all.  The Tikka is still Sako's "bargain" rifle.  It's a good rifle, but it doesn't directly compete with Sako.
 I agree with Ted regarding his specs. on the rifles and his conclusions.  Other than the barrels, which by the way are made in the same location and sent to the Sako area of manufacturing and  the Tikka area and are supposed to be the same, but from there on, Sako has let the former Tikka company that it acquired really make most of the decisions regarding the manufacturing of their rifles.  Which is good, as they are different, less expensive and approach the Sako in quality of construction.  I really do not think Sako and Beretta their parent company is going to do away with Tikka.  Tikka competes directly with alot of rifles in that price range and brings alot to the table, except for a deluxe in a 204 ruger, I want one.
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To Tip69:  I bet you could get a Sako in 6.5X55 if you got on Sako's European website. There is no way that the Finns don't chamber that cartridge. You may have to order one from overseas from the USA folks. ( sigh) The Europeans even get to have IRON SIGHTS on THEIR rifles!! Makes me want to immigrate.............( I need a new soapbox---I already squashed down this one from jumping up and down on it, and I've only been doing this forum for a month!)Soap%20Box      --Ranting Ed         Furious
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Good idea......... I'll have to check that out when these hit the shelfs!
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Looks good except for the Tikka style magazine.  (I keep hoping Sako will offer a hinged floorplate on the 85).  And with the round receiver (compared to the 75/85 dovetail) I wonder if it keeps the integral recoil lug? 
 
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

To Tip69:  I bet you could get a Sako in 6.5X55 if you got on Sako's European website. There is no way that the Finns don't chamber that cartridge. You may have to order one from overseas from the USA folks. ( sigh) The Europeans even get to have IRON SIGHTS on THEIR rifles!! Makes me want to immigrate.............( I need a new soapbox---I already squashed down this one from jumping up and down on it, and I've only been doing this forum for a month!)Soap%20Box      --Ranting Ed         Furious


Yeah we got irons on our Sakos-but they cost 1000$Shocked
PS Sako costs more than 2000$ around hereWink
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