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Gang, today I bought a Remington 700 5R rifle and would like to outfit it with my 3x9 SS. Would the scopemount depicted work on this rifle or would it put the scope too high? If I can use it what base would you recommend? 
 
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I think that mount will be to high without some kind of cheek rest. A good quality pair of low rings are what I would suggest. 
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I agree with Billy,I put a Karsten cheeck weld on my 5r milspec,it helped alot with my SS10xHD.You can do a search on the sniper hide,they gave it a really good review about 2yrs ago.
 
Just a tip,glass bed & recrown the barrel.Good luck with it,it's about as good as you will ever get straight out of the box!
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The mount you show is for an AR-15 and is an ultra high type mount so it is absolutely the wrong mount for an R5 mil spec.  I ran Badger Ordanance on mine but TPS is quite good and if you are trying to save money use the Talley lighweight ringmount and that will work for you but do not use the one you have for this type rifle.
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Medium High Badgers & plus 30 moa rail shown. Note you do not need this high of ring for this scope but I tend to switch scopes and didnt want to buy another set of rings if I went to a larger objective later on.
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That's why I was thinking of using this scope mount, it would also make it interchangeable with my 3 AR-15s, use it wherever I need it, so to speak, since the mount allows the scope to be dead on on whatever platform it's installed. Thank you for your inputs!
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I would not even use the mount you show on an AR.  The rings are way too close together and it only has one crossbolt.  You need two crossbolts spaced apart and you need your rings to be spaced as far apart as the application will allow (see Urimaginary's set up).
 
I would also forget about trying to bounce it back and forth from an AR platform and a bolt action platform because the scope height is dramatically different for each due to the stock design on each.
 
 
The only way it would work is if you used a one piece Picatinny mount on your 5R (so that the spacing of the rings will be uniform with your Picatinny mount on your AR) and medium height rings (Quick Release or Standard)....then have a riser on your AR and you could bounce the scope around with ease.
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Sharing the same scope between an AR platform and a boltgun is quite difficult.

It is doable if you put a riser onto your AR, and then use medium rings on top of that, but that is more trouble than it is worth, and you would have to re-zero the set-up all the time.

As far as actual recommendations go, I like Weaver/Picatinny rings and mounts, so that would be a good way to go.

While Badgers that Wes recommended are very good, they are also very expensive.

I would suggest you try bases and rings by either TPS or Warne.  I have had good luck with both.  Set the scope up on your boltgun and keep it there.

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Thank you very much for all your valuable comments, you gave me much to think on!

I also have to decide which scope I should use on the 5R, my old 16x SS or my new 3x9 SS. My instinct tells me "go with the 16X".


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Another thing is you have a very nice and very capable gun with the 5R.  I would make sure to squeeze every ounce of accuracy out of it and swaping scopes doesn't seem to be the best ideal.  But thats only my opinon
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GCP, you've not told us what you are going to do with the rifle... makes a lot of difference in the choice between those two scopes. 
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SVt, you are right, it seems I ought to leave well enough alone.
 
kickboxer, paperpunching mainly...but if a deer happens to walk between me and the target, oh well Excellent  All kidding aside, my range at the property is only 140 yards long so I guess I'll be trying to put a bullet inside a bullet whole, and again, and again, so the 16X ought to serve the 5R best while the 3x9 would probably serve me better on an AR.


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Why a 16x? Why not a fixed 4x? for the distance you will be shooting I would think a low power fixed scope would be great or even a Viper 2-7,can't go wrong with the insain sale price at SWFA!
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Because I will then have to buy more rifles to install the SS products onto. NOOOOOOO MOREEEEE
PURCHASES PLEASEEEEEE!!!
 
Truth is I expect that now and then I'll be shooting it at 500-1K yards, if I ever help my friend to clear bruch so we can build him his own rifle range. Sounds like a winter project in the making.
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Originally posted by gcp gcp wrote:

SVt, you are right, it seems I ought to leave well enough alone.
 
kickboxer, paperpunching mainly...but if a deer happens to walk between me and the target, oh well Excellent  All kidding aside, my range at the property is only 140 yards long so I guess I'll be trying to put a bullet inside a bullet whole, and again, and again, so the 16X ought to serve the 5R best while the 3x9 would probably serve me better on an AR.
 
You only "kind of answered" so I'll "kind of" reply...
If your hunting range is ever under 100 yards, you don't want to be using the 16x, the 3-9 will serve you far better.  Your FOV at 100 yards is under 7 feet with the 16x.  Could be very difficult to find a deer with that, especially if it is not standing still.  Paper punching, use the 16x all the time, if you want.  When you hunt, you should use the 3-9. 
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kickboxer, I was being humorous about a deer walking in between me and the paper targets I'll be shooting. Think about it, what's the chance of that happening?
 
This 5R will not be a hunter, unless I go out west, and even then I'd probably take my trusty ol' PH 7 Rem Mag.
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I've had a deer stand not 15yds away from my bench after shooting 300+rounds.  I had just changed targets, sat back down and looked to my left and there she was.  Its not impossible. 

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Originally posted by gcp gcp wrote:

kickboxer, I was being humorous about a deer walking in between me and the paper targets I'll be shooting. Think about it, what's the chance of that happening?
 
This 5R will not be a hunter, unless I go out west, and even then I'd probably take my trusty ol' PH 7 Rem Mag.
 
As SVT said, "it COULD happen".... However, that was not what I was talking about.  You were a bit unclear on the use.  But, there is no reason to not use the 5R for hunting, if you put the right scope on it.  I use every rifle I have for hunting... at some time or other. 
Just an aside, I was out shooting at 100 yard targets in my backyard one day and a fox walked up, sat down and watched me for a while.  He was so brazen I decided he deserved to live... He watched for a while and just walked off into the woods.  Of course, there is a bit of a side story here... my twins and youngest were watching, as well.  They immediately "named" him (the FEMALE rule around the house is I can't shoot anything they have named).  There sure are a lot of animals named "Bob" running around in Alabama...
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I'm sure when they aren't around "bob's" are fair game huh?Wink

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I've had the same thing happen with turkey. 2 showed up, in between reloading my 22LR, as I was target practicing. Animals do some pretty interesting things at times.
kick, the 5R is out for delivery, so I should be able to pick it up from Larry's, today sometime (I am sure your favorite store as it is mine Big Smile). Look forward to outfitting it porperly for the weekend.
On another subject, lets talk breaking it in properly. I know that just about everyone has their own subjective ideas on this but what the hey.
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BTW, whoever moved my post without notification shame on you! You've been driving me crazy Loco since last night so I owe you one.....if you ever reveal yosef Howdy.
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Well being it was posted in the wrong section it warranted movement
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Never said it wasn't warranted sir tactical but no love note? It's all good though because I'm happy to report that my 5R arrived yesterday so I installed a 2 piece Leupold base on it and then the 16X via the hefty medium steel rings it's been wearing the past 5 or so years (they came from SWFA with the scope but I can't remember the manufacturer). The package looks good and very functional so I'll be trying it out today with pics to follow.

 

But there's more to the story. I ordered all the needed reloading stuff from Midway USA Wednesday afternoon, with the cheapest ground shipping selection and I'll be darn if the box didn't make it to my door step last night some time. Now that's service, but there's a kicker! Some how the Sierra 168gr and 175gr HPBT boxes opened up (thank you Mr. UPS man) so I had a nice pile of loose bullets in the cardboard box the stuff came in. That's exactly what I wanted to do over coffee this morning, weigh bullets. So I’ve committed to myself to kick him on the chins next time I see him, and I do see him often...

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The way I seasoned my 5r is as following:
 
First I cleand the rifle ,getting out all the factory crap.
Then I shot 20 individual rds.....One round at a time cleaning betweeen each round.
 
Next I shot 10 sets of  2 rounds cleaning between each set & letting the barrel cool down.
 
Lastly, was set of 3 rounds again cleaning between each set & letting the barrel cool down.
 
Ready for this?I then ran a few swabs of Windex through the barrel to take out all the excessive gunk.Then I did a light coat of oil.
 
At no time did I use any ammonia produts to season the barrel & I only used nylon brushes for the brake in.
 
Everyone has their own formula for seasoning,this is what works for me.This proceedure took a total of 6 hours.If you don't want to go through all this,find yourself a good gunsmith & have him lap the barrel. 
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If you want to use the same scope on a bolt gun and AR then this works well.  Get a set of low TPS, Badger, Nightforce, IOR, etc rings.  Then get one of these for your AR.  http://swfa.com/IOR-AR15-Flat-Top-Mount-P10813.aspx

I actually do that all the time with my SS 10x HD move it to bolt gun then to AR.  That IOR mount gives you a good cheek height and allows you to mount is forward far enough. 

Here it is on my AR.  And when I move it to my bolt gun it is as low as it can go and works great. 




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