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Looking to purchase a ruger rifle for the wife. She would be using it for antelope, whitetail and hogs. Needs to be able to shoot out to at least 400yrds with good acuracy and knock down power. 
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7mm08
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I would like to keep recoil down. She has only shot one deer an 8pt with her uncles 30-06 she did not care for that too much. I only shoot a 06 so she need her own rifle. Any advice is apreciated. 
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I might take a beating for this, but I would recommend adding the 270 to the mix.
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I would go with the 25-06 the 260 or even a .243.  We have a couple .243 and I really like that round.  Very low recoil and perfect for deer sized game.
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

I would go with the 25-06 the 260 or even a .243.  We have a couple .243 and I really like that round.  Very low recoil and perfect for deer sized game.
 
The 243 is a great round, but I am not sure it is a good round for 400 yds.
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I am not a fan of 270 at all. but thanks for the in put.
My wife is
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My wife is 5' 1" and a buck 10 Soakin a wet. so the smother the recoil the better for her.

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The .260 is a flat shooter that has low recoil energy. It is a huge over achiever IMO.

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Well, I would rule out the 308 and the 25-06 then.  The 25-06 is just a necked down 30-06 case like the 270 is.  Still plenty of recoil.  You might aslo take a look at the 257 Roberts.

If I had to chose from you list at this moment, I would probably take the 7mm08.
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I just went throught the same issue with my wife. She has a model 70 in 243 that I had the stock cut down to fit her 5' 1' and she used this rifles for many years. Lately she has said that it is too heavy at the end of the day. I tend to agree, a wood stocked XTR model about 9#s with the scope. Anyway I got her a Remington model 7 in 7mm08 very light scaled for a smaller person and still has the power and range with all of the 7mm bullets available.  Somewhat expensive, but does not need anything done to it to fit.
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I'd go with either .260 or 7-08.  Both are plenty good enough for the hunting you describe and both generate very mild recoil. 
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Originally posted by flcooler flcooler wrote:

I am not a fan of 270 at all. but thanks for the in put.
My wife is
dude i like you already!! .260 or 7-08 are perfectly good choices here, my wife shot a 7-08 and for a while and did fine. and it was a ruger compact in a 7-08 no less and i wish i never would have traded that rifle off, especially knowing what i do now about the rifle i traded it for, which went down the road in a hurry too. the 7-08 even with 150gr bullets makes very little recoil, my wife shot a box through hers in one range setting and said it didnt bother her at all, and that was her first big game rifle to ever deal with like that.


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Originally posted by flcooler flcooler wrote:

My wife is 5' 1" and a buck 10 Soakin a wet. so the smother the recoil the better for her.

 
 
What ever you decide on, using a light/moderate round will have alot to do with recoil. If you keep it between 110 & 130 gr. you will have plenty of bullet wt. to handle you game of choice and range, and minimize recoil. Plus a good recoil pad will be worth the cost. Look forward to hearing what you do. Good luck!
 
"Added Note" I can't think of anytime that someone was tagged with a 130gr. But I know of several getting popped by a 150 gr. or bigger. My own two scars, a 150gr. 30-06 and a 240gr. 444. "Put some shoulder behind it!!" I did! Mouth%20Taped%20Shut  you got a paper towel? Ouch
 
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

Originally posted by flcooler flcooler wrote:

I am not a fan of 270 at all. but thanks for the in put.
My wife is
dude i like you already!! .260 or 7-08 are perfectly good choices here, my wife shot a 7-08 and for a while and did fine.
 
 
Come on pyro, If she likes the 270 that's half the battle. Unless Mr. cooler can get
Mrs. cooler to think she likes something else better. Queen
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well here is another option, if she likes the .270 buy her a .280, she wouldnt notice
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

well here is another option, if she likes the .270 buy her a .280, she wouldnt notice
 
 
There ya go!
 
Look honey its only ten thousands bigger, you'll never notice. And plus you'll be the envy of the camp, cause everybody will be amazed at such a fine young women sporting such a hefty game getter!
 
Works for me! Wink
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260 ...261--whatever it takes ......Whacko
 
 
Lots of great choices listed,, but i would opt for the 260 or 7mm/08 ..Very efficient rounds, plenty of oomph, available in a variety of rifle choices ( compact 18.5 inch barrels on compact stocks out to 24 inch full size models)
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Well! I can`t stay off the damn keyboard for this one  Mouth%20Taped%20Shut, so here are 2 great choices for your wife!!! A Ruger you say????....................Allrighty then!...........A 7mm/08 in either the the standard Ruger Compact with the 16.5" barrel or the Ruger Frontier with a 16.5" tube as well. Both are lighter weight compacts. They are shorter (35.5" OAL), easier to pack, to carry, are more manuverable, are better handling and are very quick to shoulder (shorter LOP)............The difference between the two is that the std. compact has a real wood stock and you can only mount a scope conventionally over the receiver..... The Frontier has the salt and pepper laminate stock, with not only built-in integral mounts for a conventionally mounted scope, but you can use a scout type scope as well because it comes with a scout base all ready installed. I own a Frontier chambered in the 300 WSM, which is no longer available in that cartridge................I will tell you from experience, that there is no quicker, a better handling or easier rifle to hunt with in the field, especially using a faster aiming scout scope or a red dot scout sight. If you prefer a conventionally mounted scope, the Frontier will accomodate...................This rifle was nominated for "rifle of the year" in `05 by Guns and Ammo!...........In fact, go to "gunsand ammo.com" click on "long guns" or "rifles" page up and find the article that tests the 7mm/08 Frontier. Another article or two is on shootingtimes.com under "long guns" or "rifles" which also tests the 7mm/08 Frontier!..................Your overall velocity decrease due to the shorter 16.5" barrel, will only be at about 4% to 4.5% vs a 24" barrel. You can trust me on that one! Keep the weight and the OAL down. This is an ideal rifle in size and weight for your wife and is also a very good long range shooter too! Don`t let that little shorty barrel fool ya! They are  performers!  
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BTW and FYI, I had to install a new and more crispy trigger on my late `06 model Frontier! At that time factory triggers really sucked from Ruger!..........Now, the new LC6 triggers are much better and the new Frontiers should have them!
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My wife is 5'2" and weighs about 110. She shoots a Ruger Compact in .308. When I first got it for her, she used the managed recoil ammo. Now, she shoots the real stuff without issue. Just ask the KY 8 pt. hanging on my gun room wall.
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7mm-o8 hands down.
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Doug, Ted and Hunter and some others got it just right.  The 260 or 7mm-08.  I prefer the former, but you are more likely to find factory ammo for the latter.  So unless you hand load, I would have to say go for the latter.  Terrific rounds, but the latter will be more user friendly when out in the some other state trying to find ammo if you do not hand load.
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I  have a .243 BAR I bought for 3 of my daughters to use and ended up using it quite a bit myself.  It is extremely accurate and with 80gr NBT at 3100fps it is still carrying almost 1000ft/lb of energy at 400 yds...which is way more than needed for whitetails.  Flat shooting, it only has about 17in drop at 400yd with 200yd zero. 
I also bought my youngest daughter a 7mm08 Ruger M77 (it was shorter than the BAR and easier for her to handle).  It was a little heavy on recoil for her with 140gr, so I went to 120 gr and she LOVED it.  It also has great ballistics and plenty of knockdown.  I never did "chart" it, but as I remember from the info on the box (I had "custom" ammo from Nosler loaded) it was still packing a heavy wallop at 400yds. 
Either of those are exceptional for your purposes and you may even find you like them yourself.  I was a heavy 30-06/7mmMag/7mmSTW user before the .243 (still am), but have found that I can live with a lighter rifle.  I personally killed 10 deer with the .243 ( 1 daughter took 2 and 1 took 1) and two with the 7mm08 before my daughter decided she did not want to shoot deer and I sold the -08 to a friend for his 5yr old son.  They killed an 8 pointer with it last season at about 225yds. 
On top of all that, the ammo is easy to come by, not too expensive.  You can't go wrong with either of those calibers. 
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I cannot argue with a 243 either.  Nice caliber.
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I would do the 260 Rem or, better yet ( to me)-- the real McCoy and get a 6.5X55.  But 400 yards is really messing with our choices here.  A 300 Savage would be ideal if you are real lucky and find an old Remiongton 722.  ...........but NOT for 400 yards.......
 
FORGET 400 yards............. 
 
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

 
FORGET 400 yards............. 
 
Bandito  " Thees damn gringos.........every jackrabbit ees 400 yards away.....caramba!!"   
 
$.02.  I have been tempted a number of times to set up long range shots, 400+yds and have always been able to convince myself it was not necessary.  If you are shooting for food and that is the only shot you can get, or MAYBE if you are on an expensive hunt that is ending and the "buck of a lifetime" walks out and you can't work to a better shot.  There are some hunts  for antelope, mountain goats, etc. where it may be necessary.  However, I have never been in that situation and have managed to let common sense override pride and vanity and have always been able to work to better position... or walk away.   
If you spend a lot of time at the range, practicing from different positions (not just a bench) and getting comfortable with 400+ yards, then leave it until you HAVE to make that shot.  If it is not necessary, don't take the chance.  Deer have feelings too, and we owe it to them, as the Masters of the Top of the Food Chain, to cause them as little suffering as possible in the pursuance of our "sport". 
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