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Mom and I are thinking of getting dad a new rifle and scope for Christmas.

What do you guys think.  Kimber 84m Montana  http://www.kimberamerica.com/products/rifles/84m/84m_montana/

Or the Browning abolt TI  http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=001B&cat_id=035&type_id=195&content=a-bolt-mountain-ti-mossy-oak-break-up-infinity--firearms

My dad has always been a Browning fan, so I am leaning towards that.  But the Kimber is tempting too.  He wants a light weight rifle.  I will probably go .308 since I have all the stuff I need to reload ammo for him already.  They are pretty much the same price, so that is not really an issue one way or the other. 

Probably get a Zeiss Conquest 3-9x for it. 


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Either would be great. I bet your Dad will love the gift. If it were me, I'd take the Kimber though. 
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Dang are those things light! 5.5lbs!!!!
 
Kimber gets my nod although I like the A-bolts stock more!
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If he likes browning then I'd stick with what you know he likes.  He may just as well love the Kimber but in the off chance it didn't perform as good as he liked, he could always be able to say "a browning wouldn't do this" ya knowWink
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Well scratch this.  I just asked him a few questions about them playing like they were for me and he said he would not want a bolt gun.  He is a semi auto, lever, or pump guy.  Oh well.  Back to the drawing board.
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Browning BAR?
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He already has one.  But he is always complaining he wants a light weight rifle.  But I guess he will just have to complain.  Big Grin
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Lever guns are light, why not a BLR in .308
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A lot of my relatives used to use Remington semi-auto's in 30.06 with great success. The newer Browning BAR's seem much lighter than the one my grandfather used to use, the lightweight BLR looks interesting as well.

Browning

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http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=002B&cat_id=031&type_id=024&content=bar-light-weight-mossy-oak%C2%AE-break-up-infinity%E2%84%A2-firearms

(BLR)

http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=003B&cat_id=034&type_id=018&content=blr-lightweight-stainless-with-pistol-grip-firearms

Remington

http://www.remington.com/product-families/firearms/centerfire-families/autoloading-model-750.aspx

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The BLR link was broke, just fixed it.
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Stripped down AR-10!
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Originally posted by jonoMT jonoMT wrote:

Stripped down AR-10!


Like that would be light.  It is hard to get an AR-15 much below 7.5 lbs with a scope and all. 
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How about a classic, savage 99 or winchester 88.  He may appreciate something from the past era.
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I have looked at all the BLRs and BARs and remington semi autos.  But non of them are anywhere near the light weight of that Kimber and TI Browning. 

My BAR all loaded out weights near 10 lbs.  I was hoping to get him one that will stay under 7 all loaded out.  But unless he changes his mind on the bolt gun, he might just have to deal with his BAR.
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I have a Winchester 100 in .243.  That is what he has actually used for the last couple seasons as he don't like the weight of his BAR.  That is a nice light little gun.
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

I have looked at all the BLRs and BARs and remington semi autos.  But non of them are anywhere near the light weight of that Kimber and TI Browning. 

My BAR all loaded out weights near 10 lbs.  I was hoping to get him one that will stay under 7 all loaded out.  But unless he changes his mind on the bolt gun, he might just have to deal with his BAR.


Too bad he doesn't like bolt action rifles, the Kimber (or Browning) would have been great.
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Yeah, it would be nice if he did.  He has never owned one, the only ones he has ever even shot are the two I have.  And probably only 20 rounds out of those. 

I am the same though, I don't really care for bolt guns either. 
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

Yeah, it would be nice if he did.  He has never owned one, the only ones he has ever even shot are the two I have.  And probably only 20 rounds out of those. 

I am the same though, I don't really care for bolt guns either. 


Really, what's your 7mm?
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Its a BAR
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

Its a BAR


Sorry, I should have known!!

My grandfather's old 7MM BAR feels like it's well over 10 pounds.   Weight Lifter

He loved semi-auto's and had a Remy semi-auto in 30.06. Back in the day he got most of the guys in the deer club buying semi-auto's as well.
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I have a older bar 7MM mag. it weighs about 10 lbs. Jason   The Remy 742 Auto in 243 I also have jammed about 20 years ago after having about 2 boxes of rounds run thru it, it still sits in a closet. Ive never liked it really....

The BLR would be my choice for him, it weighs 6.8 lbs. in the 308. Then a nice little Trijicon 3x9 weighs 12.8 lbs, so another lb. of ammo say. Im just guessing it would weigh 8 lbs. Thats a way less then 10 when you throw it up....Im hoping he does not use a sling cause then he's probably looking at 9 lbs and as you say he might as well deal with the old Bar Rifle.
I love my Bar Rifle, nice rifle for sure, just to heavy any more , Im spoiled too.Bucky
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....well you can look at my avatar and know what I'd go with!!  Big Grin

1) you can NEVER have too many BARs!!

2) You can never go wrong with Browning

I know you want it to be a surprise and all, but you might want to take him to a gun shop and let him HOLD different ones that "you" are looking at. If that doesn't give you a better idea of what he likes, then you might just have to spring it on him with a card saying...."Go pick out a rifle and scope..it's on me and mom!"

I know the gift is a WONDERFUL idea....and he probably would never let you know it wasn't what he really wanted if it was indeed a second choice for him...but getting him EXACTLY what he wants...Priceless!!

I wish I could win the lottery as I day dream a lot about going and picking my dad up and taking him to look at trucks. He of course wouldn't know I had won...and buying him the truck he likes the best!

Is it father's day or something.....LOL

I wish you the best in your quest---BBoy623
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get him an m-1 from springfield armory???
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Ummmm. If I call you daddy can I have the A-Bolt. Thinking
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im sorry dude but at this price, i may even go buy a new browning rifle.

http://www.reedssports.com/Product/product.taf?_function=detail&_ID=23076&pc=1027
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