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Leupold CQBSS

Reviewed by Jeff Freuler 1/15/10 (Team Vikingtactics, Jeff@TeamVTAC.comhttp://www.vikingtactics.com

Recently I was able to spend some time on the range with the new Leupold CQBSS optic. The new CQBSS is a front focal plane 1.1 x 8 power optic built on a 34 mm tube using a Horus 27 illuminated dot reticle. The CQBSS was specifically designed for law enforcement and military use, which is very obvious by its robust and well designed features. The windage and elevation adjustment dials are large with a pinch release style locking adjustment system to allow quick and secure adjustments even with gloves. The dials also have built-in zero stops. The windage and elevation reticle adjustments are .10 mil per click. The illuminated dot was also visible during bright sunlight. The power adjustment ring is a large and knurled bezel so you do not have to hunt for it. A nice feature of this scope is that when the power adjustment is on 1.1 the Horus reticle all but disappears and the only thing you see is a horizontal reticle line with an illuminated red dot in the middle.

Once the scope was mounted I dry fired it around the building to see how the illuminated reticle worked indoors. The reticle worked as expected indoors and the clarity of the glass was outstanding. I found the large brightness adjustment dial has clean discernable clicks at every level of adjustment. After a couple of days I was finally able to get out to the range to see what I could get out of this optic. Because of other activity on the range, I was only able to get it back to 100 yards so I was limited on distance which was disappointing. Once on the range I zeroed the CQBSS at 100 yards. The zeroing process was made easy by the pinch style locking windage and elevation dials with this style of adjustment dials it eliminates the need for a multi-tool or coin to make the adjustments. The adjustment dials are very easy to adjust and when released are locked in place without having to worry about them moving when the dial is brushed against gear or other items.After obtaining a solid zero I made several windage and elevation adjustments only to find the reticle to track perfectly which was no surprise. Once I finished checking the tracking of the reticle I started working my way in to the 7 yard line. While on the range I was able to shoot a few slow fire drills and a few rapid fire drills as I worked my way across the range. During the course of shooting with the scope I adjusted the power of the scope several times so I could get a feel for the front focal plane optic as this is the first time I have used a front focal plane optic. When I was able to get in close where I could service several targets during rapid fire drills this scope really showed how versatile and fast it actually can be. When at the 7 yard line with the scope set on 1.1 power and shooting with both eyes open it was amazing how fast you could transition from target to target. I think the reason for this is because it is very close to being very close to a true 1x optic. The red dot reticle is suppose to be a 5 moa dot however, when the power is set on 1.1 it appears to be 2 moa or smaller. The dot appears so small that it’s tough to acquire during multi target speed drills. Since this was a gen 1 version, there were some issues with the dot reticle. The dot reticle was not quite a refined as it should be and it was a bit small on 1.1x. The dot in the gen 2 is suppose to be a 10 moa dot so there will be a very noticeable difference in the size of the dot on the 1.1 power setting but, it will not be overwhelming. The gen 2 version of the CQBSS is currently in production in small numbers for testing. Look for an update once I get my hands on the gen 2 version to confirm what changes have been made.

I think this optic has a lot to offer to the LE and military community because it is so versatile with its wide range power, ease of power adjustment, ease of elevation and windage adjustments and its reticle. Hopefully this optic will be made available by Leupold in the near future and should be displayed at the SHOT Show.

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Interesting scope.   Everyone seems to be turning the corner to 1/10 mil clicks.
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Damn.  That looks like one serious scope.  Flash-dot-like technology from Leupold.  I'm impressed.
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Leupold has done several things that I have really liked recently like the "Cutom Dial System --  CDS" scope turrets in the VX 3 line, and the long range duples on the FX3 with hold over marks at a power that can be used in low light 6x42.
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This looks like an interesting product from Leupold.  I'll be sure to check it out during SHOT.

Perhaps, this is a beginning of an invigorated Leupold Tactical line-up.

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Interesting.

It looks a bit large, might be tough to balance on a 16" upper.

The market needs more 1-10X (or thereabout), there are far too few on the market!
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Well, there is only one 1-10x24, and that is a pretty rare March scope.

The closest you get otherwise (aside from this Leupold) is IOR's 1.5-8x26.

Other high erector ratio offerings are really not intended for the tactical market.

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came across this
Premier 1.1-8
http://www.thetacticalwire.com/story/211234




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That's interesting.  The specs look eerily similar to the Leupy, but the turret location looks different.

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the high erector ratio would make it as un-usable as the ior 6x18 on the extreme ends. why would anyone want a Horus reticle on a 16" carbine shooting shooting low bc bullets at 2800 fps? Even changing the mix a bit, bringing close capability to a semi in the 308 catagory and using the horus for the past 500yds of the 308 leaves a lot to be desired. Making it a mil scope doesn't matter its not going to be used with a spotter.
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SCHMIDT & BENDER has announced a brand new 1-8X24 Short Dot.
 
At 1,0X the scope functions as a parallax free red dot sight ("CC-Modus"). The reticle is in the first focal plane, the flash dot illumination in the second focal plane. 30mm tube.
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http://www.usoptics.com/product.php?partnumber=SN3-1000


This is a good one, the one by which I judge all others.


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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

http://www.usoptics.com/product.php?partnumber=SN3-1000


This is a good one, the one by which I judge all others.

USOs are nice scopes and I like the fact that they are essentially a custom shop and will build you anything you want.  Still, in the past I have had some decidedly mixed luck with their optical quality.  Have they straightened that out?  In the past it was sometimes great and sometimes not so good.  Good mechanically, but inconsistent optically.

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I cannot say with authority whether that has gone or not.

My last 2 scopes from USO are now gone, have moved up to optically better scopes (Premier and Hensoldt.)

I've always found their glass serviceable, but not the best.

The EREK is usually my reason to purchase.   As I expand my horizon and shoot other scopes, I find myself missing the EREK elevation knob: one revolution gets you to almost 1000 yards, clicks are perfectly resistant, clicks are perfectly spaced.

I've shot the 1.8-10X and want one.  Badly.
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

I cannot say with authority whether that has gone or not.

My last 2 scopes from USO are now gone, have moved up to optically better scopes (Premier and Hensoldt.)

I've always found their glass serviceable, but not the best.

The EREK is usually my reason to purchase.   As I expand my horizon and shoot other scopes, I find myself missing the EREK elevation knob: one revolution gets you to almost 1000 yards, clicks are perfectly resistant, clicks are perfectly spaced.

I've shot the 1.8-10X and want one.  Badly.

Do you want me to pick one up for you at SHOT?  I am sure they will be selling their stuff off at the end of the show...

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Thank you, no.

At the moment, every gun wears the scope I would consider "ideal."

I do have a 300Whisper in the works, it'll need a scope shortly, but not sure what to put on it.


Thanx for the offer, let me know what you think of the products and displays, sorry I can't make it.
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Sorry to revive an old thread, but just read that these are going for $4K! Wow! Hard to believe that this could be that superior an optic to either the S&B 1-8 or the Premier 1-8 (both around $2600). I sure as $#@! hope our military hasn't fallen for this overpriced scope.
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