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Any info on the new Leica rangefinder?  Suposed to have angle calculation and ballistic program with 1600 yard capabilities?  NV Hunter 
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Now that SWFA carries the Leica CRF 1600, has anyone had a chance to play with it?  I would like to know how exactly (and Leica's website provides no information on how this works) the ballistics computer works to come up with a terminal point.  What I'd like to know is how does this rangefinder tell me how to adjust my scope to hit exactly where I aim at the given distance the CRF 1600 tells me?  Thank you.

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Got a chance to visit the Leica booth at the NRA show this past weekend and hold one. I was told that there is a built in library of ballistic curves for a range of calibers and bullet weights and you select the one that matches your setup (or change your setup to match a provided curve). Inside view looks like the CRF 1200 except it gives you a "HO" (Hold Over) in yards or meters. Could be wrong but I didn't notice any angle calculation features and wasn't told of any.

New here and not sure what SWFA is, Leica reps told me the 1600 wouldn't be available until August and when it came out the CRF 1200 would be discontinued.

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Thank you labdaddy, I was hoping you could hook up the CRF 1600 to a computer via USB and possibly upload your own ballistic information.  If you cannot do this either externally or internally then this really limits the usability of the CRF 1600 to only what Leica provides as standard rounds and ballistics.  I wish Leica would provide more information on this model... oh well, there is always the CRF 1200 which is an outstanding rangefinder in its own right, and prices should come down once the 1600 is shipping.  By the way labdaddy, SWFA is the optics company that hosts the OpticsTalk website, if you look at the top right of this webpage you'll see their logo...
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Is there a forum moderator who can change the title of this thread to "CRF" instead of "CEF" as there is no "CEF" model, just thought it would helps others searching for this Leica CRF 1600 rangefinder...
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I got a new 1600 and compared it with my old 1200.

At first they were off by 10% until I realized the 1600 was reading in meters.
The manual explains how to change that.

I have not killed much past 500 yards, so I was happy with my old 1200, but I gave it to my brother.
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Originally posted by Clark Clark wrote:

I got a new 1600 and compared it with my old 1200.

At first they were off by 10% until I realized the 1600 was reading in meters.
The manual explains how to change that.

I have not killed much past 500 yards, so I was happy with my old 1200, but I gave it to my brother.


All I got to say is; we brothers need more brothers like you! Keep us posted on how the new 1600 works out. Smile
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Thanks for that info labdaddy44 & welcome to the OT!

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Anybody know how I can trick SWFA into selling me this for cheaper?Bucky
 
I had a chance to look at one of these the other day and compare it to a Bushnell, Nikon and Leupold (all in the $3-400 range).  I was hoping that one of those would be nice enough, but the Leica optics were noticeably better.Sad  I guess I am just going to have to be patient and wait for a sale or a  promotion code.  I can't really justify price, but after looking through the Leica I can't justify buying anything else.Whacko
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Just picked one up a couple of weeks ago, and haven't used it yet-Been shooting at steel at known distances.
I also have the Swaro, and I am looking forward to comparing the two.  
I did use one in Mid-May and it worked  great out to 1450 yards-Just happened to be the furthest I could range that day.  Not LRF's ability, but rather the hills would let me range any further.  I wasn't in NE Wyoming at the time.Bandito
It was definitely faster than my Swaro.
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I was just looking at it this morning and went and downloaded the user manual from Leica's site. One minor limitation is that it will only express holdover corrections in cm or inches, rather than MOA or mils. I thought for those using mils it could be simplified if you're willing to switch to meters.  The only math when using cm and mils is that you'd have to divide by the distance to get the number of clicks. For example, if I zero @ 100 meters then I found there's a ballistic profile that fits my load really closely (out of the 12 available). If I range a target @ 400 meters, then I'd divide the 93.5 cm drop by 4 and get 23 1/10th mil clicks up. Of course the math gets worse with distances like 425 meters.

Then the question is how much can you fudge the math and still be close. If I quickly take the 110.5 cm drop and call it 110 instead and divide that by 4 I'm going to end up with 27.5. If, in the heat of the moment I round up instead of down, I'll be off by 7.5 cm or 3 inches. At that distance I could probably live with that (and the animal will not). So I wouldn't rule this rangefinder out because of this limitation.

It also interests me that it apparently has a both an inclinometer and a barometer built in. However, in practice I don't think I'd find much application for these. First of all, if you zero @ 100, there's no need to note what range conditions are at the time because the differences are so minute. Secondly, only a few hunters I know ever take high angle shots (mostly on mountain goats, sometimes on elk). The farther out the shot is (where you'd be likely to use a rangefinder), the shallower angles tend to become.

As far as atmospheric pressure is concerned, there's no shot I'd ever take on a live animal where it would matter much. In my experience, pressure doesn't even vary that much where I hunt and even if you look at extremes in a ballistics calculator, you'll see that @ 500 meters the difference is just a few cm or inches.

I should mention that if I bit the bullet on this one it would be to replace a Swaro and none of these features are enough to persuade me. However, it weighs half as much and may, being newer, acquire targets faster. The Swaro has a bigger objective so it can more easily be used as a monocular on light, fast hunts. It also has ranged out to 1980 yards for me, which means it has been almost effortless to range on targets less than 600 yards.
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