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Apparently, IOR is coming out with a couple of scopes with 40mm tubes.

4-14x50 with 120MOA adjsutment range and 4-28x56 with 50MOA adjustment range.

Also, the turret is redesigned with the center screw concealed and elevation knob enlarged.  I look forward to more detail after SHOT.

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Great info Koshkin. I am very exited with most of the new products to come this year. 2007 is going to be something else.
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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Apparently, IOR is coming out with a couple of scopes with 40mm tubes.

4-14x50 with 120MOA adjsutment range and 4-28x56 with 50MOA adjustment range.

Also, the turret is redesigned with the center screw concealed and elevation knob enlarged.  I look forward to more detail after SHOT.

ILya

 

Me too.

40mm tube!!

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When will they stop? I mean come on, 35 was cool but 40 is pushing it over the line of rifle scope to telescope.
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One hell of a club for shure.........

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40mm tube is pretty big and I wonder how heavy it is going to be.

Not knowing the specs, I can't really pass judgement.  I do find the 4-28x magnification range pretty interesting.  Also, it looks to me like IOR is making thicker tubes while keeping overall length fairly short which should make them very strong and stiff.

I wonder if there are changes to the glass.

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Sounds like they are going to be great scopes. I am shure IOR will put there all into them. Kick the crap out of the ATN 40's.

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Originally posted by SVD666 SVD666 wrote:

Sounds like they are going to be great scopes. I am shure IOR will put there all into them. Kick the crap out of the ATN 40's.

 

Well of course it's going to kick the crap out of ATN 40, that goes without saying

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Coming up shortly:

A detailed comparison between a cardboard tube left from a roll of toilet paper against the latest and greatest ATN day riflescope.

By all preliminary accounts this can be a tough fight for the ATN, but it is hard to say without looking at them side by side.


Translation: if ATN was the only scope in the world, I'd be shooting with iron sights exclusively (unless of course ATN started making wome sort of a half ass decent scope since I last looked at one).

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Way too much for me.  I will stick by my old standards a shoot what I have been shooting.
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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Coming up shortly:

A detailed comparison between a cardboard tube left from a roll of toilet paper against the latest and greatest ATN day riflescope.

By all preliminary accounts this can be a tough fight for the ATN, but it is hard to say without looking at them side by side.


Translation: if ATN was the only scope in the world, I'd be shooting with iron sights exclusively (unless of course ATN started making wome sort of a half ass decent scope since I last looked at one).

ILya

 

 I can not believe there is people that still spend over a grand on a ATN.

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I have been told that many 30mm scopes really dont have any bigger lenses inside but just give you more adjustment. (I was told that by a leupold engineer referenceing their 30mm euro models)
Will this 40mm tube offer any real optical advantage?
One might expect with all the new space age technology these guys could come up with a 22mm (7/8") tube scope that hads the eye relief of the old Lyman Alaskan (I have several on 03 sporters where the bolts are unaltered and the eypiece is AHEAD of the bolt) and sufficient optics to go to 4 or 6X. That would be a lot sleeker rig than the top heavy luggage handles that pass for optics today.Imagine such a scope on a Ruger 77 mannlicher in 358 WRA!
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Rootmanslim this is true with Leupold(what a waste) but not true with the real euros or IOR.
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I'll pass on the mannlicher.........talk about UGLY   No offensive, I'm sure they serve their purpose well!
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I'm VERY intrigued with the new IOR scopes.  Granted, I'm wondering a bit why a 40mm tube.  But if the newest models are built to the same standards as the 35mm scopes, then these are going to be freakin' awesome scopes!

 

Now if they'd just offer them for under $1,000

 

Oh yeah, as a side note, I heard from a reliable source that the new Swarovski Z6 line was going to carry an MSRP in excess of $1,900!!!  OUCH!!!

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I'm still left wondering why technology cant give us something sleeker & smaller & lighter ?
If my 1950 2.5x 7/8" Alaskan will work during legal shooting hours why can't these optic wizards
replicate it's best feature (eye relief), make it a 3-9 variable (superior lens & coatings). lighter (something other than steel) and epoxy coated? I really dont want a luggage handle on a walk around woods or high country rifle.
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Rootmanslim, if you approach an optics company with your idea and guarantee a certain sales target, I am sure they'll make anything you want.  If you want something with a lot of eye relief, my Burris Compact 4x20 has over 5" of eye relief.  Leupold FX-II 2.5x20 is up there also.  Burris Short Mag variable scopes also have a lot of eye relief.

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Yeah but they keep making this stupid stuff that doesn't sell well either, is copy cats and all those scopes you mentioned are 1" tubes with even fatter eyepieces. And short mag scopes can be a probem on a magnum (thats real magnum) length action. A real breakthru would be welcome and would sell IF well documented and field tested.

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To the best of my knowledge, neither S&B with their 34mm scopes nor IOR with 35mm scopes is complaining about sales.  These scopes have developed a good following and are selling quite briskly. 

Anyhow, if you think you've got such a wonderful idea, I am sure you can get someone to make it.  There are many contract optical manufacturers.  Just give them a design, pay them some money and they'll make it for you.  As long as you use a well recognized optical design software, they will have no problem making it.  Most software packages will even let you do manufacturing tolerance analysys before you commit any money for manufacturing.  I would recommend Zemax, but many people prefer other stuff like Code V, OSLO or Synopsis.

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