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    Posted: May/18/2019 at 13:00
I'm saving  up for a new rig.  Wil prob collect  it all over next 2-3 years hopefully.  But I wanna decide what I want so I can buy with sales hopefully.

Primary use will be deer  and pigs.  Woods to 400 yards.  16-20" 308 or 6 5.  308 has better bullet selection, but 65 has  better external ballistics.   Originally I wa leaning  towards 3,-12or 4-16 ..im leaning to a lpvo.. I'm pretty well set  on a Q thunder chicken for the supressor. , maybe full  Nelson. 

These are things im currently leaning  towards.  
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Tiika t3x ctr  good barrel size for hunting for.  Not a pencil barrel fan. , but would need  a stock  replacement. 
Bergara  heavy  barrel.sonid probably  want to cut to 16"  to save weight.  And I believe takes all Remmy parts.

Scopea. Even harder decision.  
Right now  my top interest are the new edtech 1-8. And the meopta  1-6 with either red dot or diotrech reticle. Both are new  and unproven.   I'd like a mil based reticle over bdc. 
Right now im just collecting ideas, but I'd like to have a plan  so when I find a good deal I can buy 
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If you can stretch your budget that far, Q's The Fix with a 16" 308 barrel is just the ticket.  Since you plan to use their suppressor, I figured I should throw this out there.  I have The Fix and I am a big fan, partially because of how light it is.  It is hard to get that light with a chassis gun, without resorting to a lot of carbon fiber components like Chistensen does.  16" Fix is all metal and their short barrel is a smooth taper, so it is not at all a pencil barrel.  There is a lot of metal where you need it, toward the chamber.

Still, even if you add a chassis, you will save some money with Tikka or Bergara.  Both are good and will work well for you.

Given what you want to do, I am not sure if there is really a good need for 1x. On the other hand, just a little more objective lens will go a long way in terms of low light performance.  A comparatively inexpensive Vortex Razor HD LH 1.5-8x32 or something along those lines will give you notably better low light with a lower weight than almost any 1-6x24 or 1-8x24 scope out there.

If you are willing to go a little bigger, Meopta Meostar 1.5-6x42 is a very underrated scope especially as the light gets low.

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I didn't didn't  know vortex  made that scope.  . I like the priceand the reticle  of the vortex.  I actually have  a meopta meopro  3-9 a razor ii 3-18x50.  Do you know where  those two scopes fall on relation.  I think I'd prob lean  towards the meostar if I could get the funds. 

I would love to have a fix. Its a very purpose built.    But I think wife might stab me in my sleep if i dropped that much at once.  Otherwise I would

What about caliber and length.? 16" handiness 20" for mv. 308 has better barrel life,  and bullets selections.  6.5   he's in flight advantage. Primary  will be deer and n pigs.  But I hope one day to draw an elk tag. 

Thanks koshin always nice to get wise opinions,
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Originally posted by GiantGreg GiantGreg wrote:

I didn't didn't  know vortex  made that scope.  . I like the priceand the reticle  of the vortex.  I actually have  a meopta meopro  3-9 a razor ii 3-18x50.  Do you know where  those two scopes fall on relation.  I think I'd prob lean  towards the meostar if I could get the funds. 

I would love to have a fix. Its a very purpose built.    But I think wife might stab me in my sleep if i dropped that much at once.  Otherwise I would

What about caliber and length.? 16" handiness 20" for mv. 308 has better barrel life,  and bullets selections.  6.5   he's in flight advantage. Primary  will be deer and n pigs.  But I hope one day to draw an elk tag. 

Thanks koshin always nice to get wise opinions,

Vortex is discontinuing that model (1.5-8x32) which is why the prices right now are very good.  Once they are gone, they are gone.  I am thinking of picking another one up myself.  

I am glad you liked the G4 reticle.  I sketched it up for Vortex originally, so I am quite partial to it.

Optically, Razor HD LH is broadly similar to the MeoPro except with a larger magnification range and lower weight.

On barrel length and caliber: for shooting inside of 400 yards, go with the 308.  6.5CM has a trajectory advantage, but it really only becomes noticeable at longer distances.  Inside of 400 yards, it is a moot point.  308, on the other hand, is a little more efficient with shorter barrels and you can use a bigger bullet which will come in handy if you need to shoot something substantial, like an elk at some point.  Given that you will be running a suppressor, I'd go with a 16" barrel.

My Fix has a 24" 308 Proof barrel right now, but I also have a 16" Bartlein 308 barrel it originally came with.  That 16" barrel was impressively handy.

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I have a tikka ctr i use for hunting. I like it a lot. I put a manners stock on it and a leupold vx-5hd 2-10x.
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How much of  an optical upgrade does the meostar  offer to the meopro?  Is the  illum day light visible?
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Tikka in the compact tactical rifle sounds like a nice choice. I would probably go .308 but that is based primarily on not wanting to load another caliber when I already load for .308

My Tikka is a 300 WSM stainless with a Zeiss 4.5-14x44 with rapid Z800 and it will stomp anything in the woods  and is one of my favorite rifles to carry, but only 3 rounds in the mag, and the cost of their cheap ass plastic mags is outrageous.  If I could change anything about my rifle it would be adding a higher capacity mag. 


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Originally posted by Urimaginaryfrnd Urimaginaryfrnd wrote:

Tikka in the compact tactical rifle sounds like a nice choice. I would probably go .308 but that is based primarily on not wanting to load another caliber when I already load for .308

My Tikka is a 300 WSM stainless with a Zeiss 4.5-14x44 with rapid Z800 and it will stomp anything in the woods  and is one of my favorite rifles to carry, but only 3 rounds in the mag, and the cost of their cheap ass plastic mags is outrageous.  If I could change anything about my rifle it would be adding a higher capacity mag. 


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What's opinion on full Nelson  vs thunder chicken  supressor.  Full Nelson is cheaper and quieter,  but the  thread  are on front  of taper.   Thunder  chicken more expensive , but uses a mount.  And has threads behind the taper. 
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I looked around found some articles on rifle shooter.com. And ran some numbers on my ballistic calculator. A 16 “ 308vs 6.5 drop is about the same  308 has more energy, but 6.5 wins in the wind.  Hmm tough call.  Less wind = higher hit %. I don’t  take a shots i a don’t feel comfortable with. 
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Yep  they make 5 round mags in several calibers but mine is 3 rounds. The tactical comes with a 10 round mag but even the 5 round mags look like a lot of ammo when you have 3.   Seriously how hard would it be they are plastic and cost a fortune.

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well the ctr has a 10 round.  And I'd prob eventually  swap over to a McMillan or something similar.  Carbon fiber hopefully 
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