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Hi all,
          I new here and need some input.
 
This forum doesn't seem to be dedicated to long range, so I think I can get better feed back.
 
I just purchased a Leupold VX-1 2-7x33. I have a Savage 111 in a .270 winchester.
Problem was, as you know, it's a long action, so standard mounts will not work.
The tubes are shorter than the average scope. So I used extention mounts from weaver. It mounts, but with not room to slide the scope back at high power. At low power up to 4x it's fine.
 
I found a Picatinny mount from Brownells for $50. It's those tactical rails, if you ever saw them. I called Leupold and asked them the capabilities of the scope and they said 500 yards. Maybe you all can give some input about your experience with this, Leupold, or a similar powered scope?
 
I called Leupold and asked them the capabilities of the scope and they said 500 yards.
 
 
 
Anyway.....  That's a little about what I'm up to for December! Loco
 
My varminter, Savage 11 .243 Winchester Bushnell 3200 Elite 5-15x40, is been set....Bandito it's just taking a siesta, till the summer.
 
That deer will not make it out of my cross hairs.
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Did the off set rings get you where you want to be, on eye relief?, at full power. I use a one piece rail mount to give me more options on where to mount my scopes, and I don't have to use off set rings to achieve this. Sounds like you have your scope mounted as low as you can which is what you want, with in reason. Would a higher ring be out of the question? If you need to get your scope back a little further I would try a one piece mount.
 
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I have the same Rifle, mod. 111, .270 and I put a Monarch 3-9X40 on mine. This pic isn't the best but you can see I have it mounted back  further than I could with the mounts that came with it.
 
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Originally posted by glockman55 glockman55 wrote:

Did the off set rings get you where you want to be, on eye relief?
 
I used offset weaver Bases, not offset rings. I thought of both but not a good idea without support from underneath.
 
 
, at full power. I use a one piece rail mount to give me more options on where to mount my scopes, and I don't have to use off set rings to achieve this. Sounds like you have your scope mounted as low as you can which is what you want, with in reason. Would a higher ring be out of the question?
 
I'm using medium rings now, but the main problem is I can't bring the scope back due to the the ring is as far as it can go to the obective bell.
 
 If you need to get your scope back a little further I would try a one piece mount.
That deer will not make it out of my cross hairs.
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It looks like the Picatinny is a little higher than the weaver bases, so i should be able to use low weaver rings.
That deer will not make it out of my cross hairs.
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picatinny rails are higher because the rings that use them have longer "grabbing claws" which alot of times makes them unusable on weaver bases (hit the receiver before tight). weaver type rings will mount lower on rails but will move back and forth as the recoil lug is thinner than "tactical" mounts.
 
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you lost me, Dale.
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so what rings are needed? The square rod doesn't fit snugly even after the nut is tightened?
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me too!  Chuck, I'd get a different scope!  Like the Nikon Team Primos!
take em!
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you ran into the same problem?!!
That deer will not make it out of my cross hairs.
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Chuck.... Get a decent picatinny rail. You'll have many more mounting options for the scope.
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cyborg,
            it's on the way from brownells. This is a great site!Big Smile
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Picatinny rail is too high. And I need rings to fit wide slots.
 
If the rail was lower I could have more use with it, the weaver extentions worked the same as the picatinny.
That deer will not make it out of my cross hairs.
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I can't use the picatinny base... the objective bell hits the base with medium rings.
So if I use high rings a cheek raise is in order... but not for deer hunting
 
Any ideas?
That deer will not make it out of my cross hairs.
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Then you have one of two options left. Find a way to make the offset rings work, or buy a different scope.
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You took the words right out of my mouth Cy..... The off set rings work as far as mounting the scope... But I have to sinch my head a little forward for 7x because the scope is far back as it can go.. ya live ya learn.
 
It doesn't seem folks are that helpful at Cabelas and Brownells. Heck, Brownells
Tech. suuport guy didn't even tell me that I needed special rings for the Picatinny
rail... the description said "most weaver rings are compatible". Go figure.Loco
 
 
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So the eye relief varies that much? I'm not familiar with that model Leupold at all.
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 I can tell ya that the e/r on my VXIII 1.75-6x32 varies ALOT from low to high. And guys ask what the big deal is about the constant e/r factor with a scope? It's NICE! My 1.5-6x42 SII is actually almost constant(3.8 to 4).
 
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5 and above for mine.
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Jeesh!!!!!! I never bothered to really check my Leupold. It has never seemed to be a problem.
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 I've got my Leupold mounted on a rifle whose stock's lop fits me.  Still can't keep my head in one position on the stock through the scope's power range and get a full image. Not really a problem though.
 
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Chuck. Someone mentioned you should get the Nikon Team Primos. I can certainly say that I'd have to agree with them. The Bushnell 3-9 40 would be a good one also. Yes the objective is larger than the one on your present scope. BUT the length for mounting on your rig will be there, and the overall geometry that you are looking for will be right there.
Check the return policy for the unuseable items you've purchased.
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I really don't want any other scope but Leupold. And the price you can't beat with the warranty. Unlimited lifetime warranty.
 
What comes close?
That deer will not make it out of my cross hairs.
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OK... I measured front ring space on my bushnell 2300....  almost 3".
 
It seems the front space is more critical.
 
 
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