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Bushnell Elite 3200 5-15x40
Adjustable Objective
1" Tube
5" Sunshade
Matte Finish
15x Wire Mil-Dot Reticle in 2nd focal plane
Tactial Turrets, 1/4 moa
$329.95
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Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24x50
Side Focus Parallax
30mm Tube
5" Sunshade
Matte Finish
12x Wire Mil-Dot Reticle in 2nd Focal Plane
Tactial Turrets, 1/4 moa
$569.95
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edited to update wrong info on the 5-15, it has a 15x reticle not a 12x reticle as indicated by Bushnell.



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Nice scopes, Chris.

 

There you go Roy Finn!!

 

 

 

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Hi,

  This is my first post.  I've been lurking for a few weeks and I've enjoyed this forum.  I like the look of these scopes.  Anybody have any idea how much elevation travel they have respectively?  Also, any possibility of getting one with the firefly reticle? (I'll assume they are not battery illuminated.)  And last, what does availability look like as far as being able to obtain one soon?  I have an IOR on order but would consider cancelling to obtain one of these.  Open to any suggestions or advice.

 

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4200 glass sounds interesting, I like the 30mm tube and side focus.  I am just wonder about having the mil dot set up at the 12x rather than at the maximum -- if one wouldnt be off a little one way or another each time its used. Probably not as much of an issue with all the laser rangefiders out there.

 

As for the 3200 model 5-15 doesn't excite me like 3-15 or  even 4-14  would and then have it set to mil at 12 why not at 15. Not much interest in that one for me.

 

I dont think it will be nearly as tough as an IOR (RONK), but if you get one try the 4200 and let us know.



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Originally posted by RONK RONK wrote:

Hi,

  This is my first post.  I've been lurking for a few weeks and I've enjoyed this forum.  I like the look of these scopes.  Anybody have any idea how much elevation travel they have respectively?  Also, any possibility of getting one with the firefly reticle? (I'll assume they are not battery illuminated.)  And last, what does availability look like as far as being able to obtain one soon?  I have an IOR on order but would consider cancelling to obtain one of these.  Open to any suggestions or advice.

 

Thank you,

RONK

 

Usually Cheaptrick would say this, but this time I beat him to it.  Welcome to the O.T. Ronk.

 

Bushnell says:

1/4 moa, 50 moa of travel on the 5-15

1/4 moa, 26 moa of travel on the 6-24

 

No possibility of a FireFly reticle in either.

 

Availability is extremely tight right now, we have some of the 6-24's on the shelf right now but they are going real fast.

 

 



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 Thanks for the welcome Chris.(I guess I'll wait patiently for Cheaptrick to welcome me also,should he choose to do so.If not I'm O.K.with that, too. Really I am...)

  Alright, enough silliness. I am a little surprised that there is less travel in the 30mm.4200 than there is in the 1- inch tubed 3200. Other factors at play, I guess...although either one should be adequate for most tasks, even without a tapered base under it.

Also too bad about the Firefly reticle unavailability in these scopes. I have not seen one yet, but if they work as advertised they would be a great feature on a great scope.

 Urimaginaryfrnd-I would love to try one out and give you guys a range report, but just this morning I got some kind of order confirmation from SWFA on my IOR, so hopefully it will show up next week and I will be very happy with it forever and ever...

 As far as ruggedness goes- anything better than Bushnell would have to be very good indeed. A friend of mine dropped a 4200 from shoulder height on the top step of a long flight of concrete stairs. It was mounted in Burris Signature Zee rings on a heavy 700 Remington and the whole rig went all the way down. Badly battered externally but functions perfectly and even held zero! Sold me...

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Welcome to the OT, RONK!!!!

 

           

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Aw shucks...

  Yeah, I kinda like it here.

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I was rather underwelmed by the Firefly, although I haven't used mine much, it doesn't seem to glo as long as they advertised....I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.  I am really surprised by the windage difference between 1" and 30mm....I would have expected the opposite.
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That's interesting sandsock, I've been curious about the Firefly since it first came out, but still haven't examined one. I still think the concept has some real merit compared to batteries but it sounds as though Bushnell needs to take it a bit further down the Research and Development path...

  Thanks for sharing your experience.

                                                     RONK

 P.S. cheaptrick-your choice of emoticons reminds me of the welcome my now- seven-year-old daughter received from her little cousins, the day my wife and I introduced her to them as a newborn.The then two-year old girl was literally doing somersaults of joy!!

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Hi

 

Has anybody handled one of the E3200 5-15 versions? I was wondering if anybody can can confirm the mag setting for the mil dots being true. Says 12x above, but I have also been told 10x or 15x! 

 

Is the reticle on the E3200 like the E4200s, or like a legend, a bit thicker/heavier?

 

I have a preference for the E3200 as the minimum focus is 10 yards, compared to 25 yards on the E4200 version, but would like true mil dot spacing at about 10 ore 12x mag max. The E4200 AO version is a bit long for my application

 

Thanks

 

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What is the warranty on these?  I tired looking on Bushnell's site but it only says one year no questions asked and  Elite Bullet Proof warranty, but no explanation.  Thanks
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Originally posted by rich_morris rich_morris wrote:

...... I was wondering if anybody can can confirm the mag setting for the mil dots being true. Says 12x above, but I have also been told 10x or 15x! 

 

Is the reticle on the E3200 like the E4200s, or like a legend, a bit thicker/heavier?

 

Thanks

Rich

 

It has a 15x reticle that is the very similar to the Legend.

 

 

 

Originally posted by area51 area51 wrote:

What is the warranty on these?  I tired looking on Bushnell's site but it only says one year no questions asked and  Elite Bullet Proof warranty, but no explanation.  Thanks

 

They have a lifetime warranty with the first year being "no fault".

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I just received my 4200 tact today, and it needs alot of improvement. After 16X the mirage is horrible and the focus after 300 or so yards is horrible. I do not see how one can shoot a 5 or 6 hundred yard object when the focus is horrible. Do not have it installed on my AR yet, but when I get it to the range I will review it further.
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I didn't think that mirage was really affected by the optics.  I thought it was mostly a function of magnification and field conditions.  Do some scopes do better with mirage than others?  Why or why not?

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Any other reports with the 5-15X 3200 yet? Seeing as we will likely NEVER get a Variable Super Sniper(another topic altogether!), I might have to get one of these.

What I am most interested in is do the Elites, whether it's these Tactical models or others, hold Zero after changing windage/elevation like a good scope should?

Better yet, do they stay on target when changing Magnification, I've seen 2 many that seem good until you start changing magnification. A scope is no good to anyone if you sight in at 12x, lower it to 6x for a shot and your hits are 5" away

We need more first hand reports in here




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i am very disappointed after looking at a 4200 6-24x50. i was torn between this, a leupold, and a nice ior scope. i figured i would go with bang for the buck, so i picked the bushnell.

i made a mistake. this is not a good scope. i have experience with a 4200 4-16x50, and found that to be quite nice. but for whatever reason the higher power scope is just awful. there is serious image distortion from center to edge, among the worst i've seen. the image is bright, with clear resolution, up to about 16x. after that you might as well have bought a crappy tasco, the image is that bad.

the scope is also very, very heavy; i don't know if this is because it is built tough or not, but i'm not going to find out. i am so disappointed, i have no desire to shoot it and see how it performs. the optics are NOT remotely good, even for a scope in that sort of price range.

so i guess the point is, stay away from the 4200 in anything beyond 16x.
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I am not sure I would make a blanket statement like that.  I have a 6-24x40 Elite 4200 (this is a 1" AO version) and the image quality is excellent all the way out to 24x.

Perhaps Bushnell is having difficulties with the new 6-24x50.  However, I know of quite a few people who are pretty happy with theirs.  My guess would be that yours is an aberration.

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I owned the scope for about a month and returned it to Bushnell (the refund was here in 3 weeks); however, I cannot agree entirely with your summary.

 

Few scopes  - and NONE in that price range - offer a great image at 24X.  With an exit pupil of just over 2, you simply will not get an image that looks great.  That said, I had no evident distortion even at 24X, and I thought the glass was pretty good, given what I paid for the scope.

 

I sent mine back because the project for which it was bought went away.  Had there been a heavy, long-range, mid-level rifle around needing a scope, I would have kept it for sure.

 

I would say yours may suck that badly, but all do not.  It is a good scope for the money (or mine was) and was better than anything else out there with that feature set and under $800.

 

Sorry to hear you had a bad experience; I hate Leupold and most others love them - go figure.  I would recommend you call Bushnell customer service and talk with them.  There is a "no questions" refund and I can attest to its usability and efficiency.

By the way: I have the new IOR 3-18 and, though better in every way, the image at 18X still isn't amazing.  But how often does one really need 18X?  The IORs are worth the $$.  Then again, I say the Bushnell is worth the $, so maybe you shouldn't listen to me.

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i appreciate the response, especially from two knowledgeable people here. it may simply be that i got a lemon. certainly possible.

i don't want to say there are never problems with, for example, leupold, but i've never seen a bad scope from them. it says something about a company when there aren't any qc issues. one way around that is to have bushnell's return policy, which sounds great. or they could build the thing properly in the first place.

i also understand a scope in that price range isn't going to look like a swaro at 24x; but there is a difference between "not great" and "not usable." for long range paper punching, if the image is more useful at 16x than 24x in the same scope, then you got the wrong scope.

if bushnell wants to build a 6-24x50, great, but don't put it in the same family as the other 4200 scopes, which i have been very impressed with. the particular scope i received was not close in performance.

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I've seen lemons from a number of reputable manufacturers, including Bushnell Elite and Leupold.  It happens occasionally.

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At first I as not sure about my Bushnell Tactical 6-24x50mm scope, now after mounting it and shooting a couple hundred rounds through it, I love it. There is no reason I can't kill a coyote or a prariedog out to five hundred yards, yes 16-24x is a little soft but as others have posted for the money you can not beat it! Sounds like u may have gotten a lemon...

 

 



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That's a pretty AR, camo!!
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Thanks Cheap, I really like it and glad I put it together!
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Nice....I would only look at some sort of Ergogrip...the factory type grip just feels a little skinny...the scope mount set up turned out really sweet looking
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