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Hello All......wish to purchase an Aimpoint optic for my Ar15/Stag for Target use(100 yards) and Home Defense....Aimpoint Micro's vs Aimpoint Pro models. Any opinions...Any opinion of going with the Trijicon Accupoin 1-4×24 with Larue quick mount vs Vortex Razor Hd 1-4??? Any opinion on the quick mounts experience??? Thank you all in advance
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Aimpoint Micro. I use a Larue mount, but there are others. 
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All are good choices, the 1-4 Trijicon or similar scope would offer the most flexibility but is also the largest and heaviest.  With a throw lever accessory it can be quickly moved to 1x and used like a red dot sight.  I have a Ruger SR 556C set up with a 1-4x (lesser quality) scope that works great this way and offers more precise aiming at 100 yards and beyond.  I have a Colt Lightweight 16" 5.56 with an Aimpoint Pro that I also like and have the option of installing a Vortex 3x magnifier when I want to extend the range past 100 yards.  However the combo is larger and possibly heavier than a 1-4x scope so the magnifyer mostly stays in the gun case.  I have a Colt rimfire AR made by Walther set up with a Vortex SPARC which is a cheaper Micro T1/H1 "wanna be" but still very credible.  I like all three set ups.  If I could have only one AR for all purposes it would be set up with a 1-4x or 1-6x scope with illuminated center reticle in a QR mount and backup iron sights.   

If you don't need magnification I am pretty sure you would never regret either the Aimpoint PRO or Micro.  If light weight and small size are important the nod goes to the Micro sights.  The price advantage goes to the PRO which comes with a no tool mount that is also quick on and off.  If you decide you want magnification, also look at the SWFA SS 1-4x and 1-6x scopes with HD glass.  They get high marks from a lot of users both on this and other forums.


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Any magnifying scope will (under similar circumstances) be slower on target.  With MUCH training, a true 1X tube scope can be quite quick; but with the same training on a red dot, you'll be hella faster.

I have ARs with scopes and ARs with red dots, the "go to" gun has a SS1-4, but the "fast rounds and not as accurate" wears a micro.

I have moved away from LaRue mounts due to the damage they cause to rails over repeated removal/reinstall.  That, and they don't maintain zero well when removed and replaced.  I prefer American Defense and bobro for most applications.  My micro is on an AD riser, and my SS1-4 is in an AD QD.
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My experience differs from RC's in regard to the LaRue mount and it not going back to zero when removed.
My LaRue mount goes back to dead nuts zero each and every time it's taken off and that's a LOT.  Big Grin

I do however agree with Mr. Coolaid on the LaRue mount marring up the rail. Yep, it does scratch up the rail a bit, but that's not a concern for me because I have an innate hatred of AR-15's and like to beat and bang them up at every opportunity.   
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CT, are you removing/reinstalling a non-magnifying red dot with a 2 MOA dot?  In that application, I agree, drift is MUCH less than what you'd lose in the 2 MOA dot.  

My experience has been that magnifying scopes drift (1/2 MOA to 3/4 MOA for remove/remount.)  If a red dot moves by 1/2 MOA, you never see it due to rough aiming point of a 2 or 4 MOA dot.
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

CT, are you removing/reinstalling a non-magnifying red dot with a 2 MOA dot?  In that application, I agree, drift is MUCH less than what you'd lose in the 2 MOA dot.  



I'm removing and re-installing an Aimpoint T1 with 4 MOA dot, Sir. I "check" the dot with my YH BUIS and it is always sitting on top of the front sight post. 


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For that application, yes, there is not enough discernible drift to matter.  Where it gets interesting in with precision, magnifying optics.  Realize that, with a 4 MOA aiming point, you could be shifting by a few MOA and not see it on paper at 100 yards.
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My 2 T1s are both in ADM mounts, one 2 and one 4MOA.  Both RTZ as well as the 2 scopes that I use as primarys in ADM mounts. 
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

For that application, yes, there is not enough discernible drift to matter.  Where it gets interesting in with precision, magnifying optics.  Realize that, with a 4 MOA aiming point, you could be shifting by a few MOA and not see it on paper at 100 yards.


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