OpticsTalk by SWFA, Inc. Homepage SWFA     SampleList.com
Forum Home Forum Home > Scopes > Tactical Scopes
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - New 20" AR Build - Need Scope
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Visit the SWFA.com site to check out our current specials.

New 20" AR Build - Need Scope

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
squee116 View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper
Avatar

Joined: May/07/2012
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 18
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote squee116 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: New 20" AR Build - Need Scope
    Posted: June/28/2016 at 01:12
I'm in the process of building another AR, this time a lightweight 20" build, revolving around the Faxon Arms 20" Gunner barrel, and 2A Balios Lite receiver set.

I've got the 2.5-10 FFP Viper PST sitting on my Thompson and I love it!

I'd be happy with a magnification around sitting around that.

Again, I'm looking for lightweight, but I can sacrifice some weight for higher end glass.  It'll just be used for range time for the most part, shooting from a shaded rest, out to between 100 to 400 yards.  I also HUGELY prefer ffp.

I guess my budget is sitting at about 1k or less, but I can get some dealer pricing on Burris and Sig scopes, and some Bushnell, Nikon, Trijicon, and Leupold.

I've been thinking about:

SS HD 3-9 w/ Mil Quad reticle
Another Vortex 2.5-10 ffp
Sig Tango 4 1-4x either in mil or horseshoe reticle
Burris Veracity 2-10
I don't have experience with the SS HD, but I do have the SS 3-15, and find that scope to be exceptional as well.

I'm not really certain what the glass on the Burris or Sig is like, but like I said, I get dealer pricing on those.
Back to Top
koshkin View Drop Down
MODERATOR
MODERATOR
Avatar
Dark Lord of Optics

Joined: June/15/2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 13181
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote koshkin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/28/2016 at 08:40
If you get good pricing on Burris, XTR II 2-10x42 is a very nice scope and should fall within your budget.

If all you are doing is range shooting, most of the differences between PST, SS and XTR II come down to reticle choice and which turrets you prefer. The Burris has a good zerostop, which helps. SS does not have any parallax correction, but for your distances it is not a major problem.

All three track well in my experience.

ILya
Back to Top
DCAMM94 View Drop Down
Optics Master Extraordinaire
Optics Master Extraordinaire
Avatar

Joined: April/19/2008
Location: Fort Worth
Status: Offline
Points: 3484
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DCAMM94 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/28/2016 at 09:27
I would think with a light receiver and barrel, the SS 3-9 is going to let you squeeze just about as much out of an AR as you'd ever need.  As Ilya said, any of your choices are fine and boil down to personal preference.
Although personally I am quite content with existing explosives, I feel we must not stand in the path of improvement. -Winston Churchill
Back to Top
squee116 View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper
Avatar

Joined: May/07/2012
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 18
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote squee116 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/28/2016 at 15:07
Interesting.  I'll have to look at those reticles then.
Back to Top
squee116 View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper
Avatar

Joined: May/07/2012
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 18
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote squee116 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/29/2016 at 21:36
Somewhat related to this, and not to start any flame wars, but is it worth getting the matched upper/lower billet set, or is a billet lower with a tension screw get me most of the way the way there, in terms of accuracy?
Back to Top
koshkin View Drop Down
MODERATOR
MODERATOR
Avatar
Dark Lord of Optics

Joined: June/15/2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 13181
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote koshkin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/30/2016 at 02:01
Opinions vary.

I would not bother.

ILya
Back to Top
Rancid Coolaid View Drop Down
MODERATOR
MODERATOR
Avatar

Joined: January/19/2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 9318
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rancid Coolaid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/30/2016 at 07:46
In my experience, AR accuracy is more a function of barrel than tension screws. Then again, I am not a fan of considering an AR a precision platform.
Freedom is something you take.
Respect is something you earn.
Equality is something you whine about not being given.
Back to Top
supertool73 View Drop Down
Optics God
Optics God
Avatar
Superstool

Joined: January/03/2008
Status: Offline
Points: 11814
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote supertool73 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/30/2016 at 08:04
I built two guns with the same model WOA barrels. One had high end billet upper and lower set and expensive bolt group. The other was all milspec. Shooting same ammo they both shot 1/2" groups at 100 yards with my hand loads. So in my sample in made no noticable difference.
Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack.

"A Liberal is a person who will give away everything they don't own."
Back to Top
squee116 View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper
Avatar

Joined: May/07/2012
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 18
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote squee116 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July/04/2016 at 01:43
Made my choice easy for me, and saved quite a bit in monies. More for the scope :). Thanks.
Back to Top
MikieG View Drop Down
Optics Apprentice
Optics Apprentice


Joined: December/10/2014
Location: Oklahoma
Status: Offline
Points: 187
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikieG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July/04/2016 at 20:54
Recievers do nothing more than hold the parts together. You are paying for the look. Unless you are getting features over and above GI pattern recievers i.e. side charger ect.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.01
Copyright ©2001-2018 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.392 seconds.