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I need a spotting scope that i can see 223 bullet holes at 300 to 500 yards. is there such a spotting scope ?. please list all brands models and power range that will do the job. i  can look up the prices.  i can only afford to do this once. thanks. marty
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There are certainly spotters that will do that. However, bear in mind that under poor visibility or mirage conditions even the best might not work out that far. I'll leave specific recommendations to others since I can only vouch for .30 cal holes with a budget spotter out to 300 and am just now in the next day or so about to test a nicer spotter on loan from SWFA out to the ranges you're talking about. I'll put some .22 rounds into the targets and see how far back I can get.
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excellent. thanks for your help.  when your in fargo ND and i will buy lunch. marty
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Have you had a chance to try out that loaner scope?
I am also looking for a spotter to check 308 holes at 300 yards.
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Baught a Nikon Prostaff, 48X60, from the sample list the other day.  It will do the .30 out to 500yds but as was previously mentioned at that range the mirage does eat you up.  Out to 300yds I have had no problems.  Unknown about the .223's. 
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If it's for range use you'll always get better resolution and a brighter view with a 80mm class spotter.  No way around it. 
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thanks for the update. marty
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For that small of a hole at that distance, and variable atmospheric conditions, use a Shoot-N-C targets
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Unless you have someone in the pit putting spotter markers on the hole - good luck. You might as well just start at the top end and what you get you get.

Swarovski 20-60x Eyepiece
Stock # - 49330
  • Zoom Eye Piece
  • 20-60x for 65mm, 80mm, and 85mm Spotters
$578.95 

Swarovski ATM 65 Spotter Swarovski ATM 65 Spotter
Stock # - SWA49714
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  • High Definition
$1,988.95 
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Swarovski ATM 80 Spotter Swarovski ATM 80 Spotter
Stock # - 49814
  • Angled Body Only
  • High Definition
$2,598.95 
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Swarovski ATS 80 Spotter Swarovski ATS 80 Spotter
Stock # - 49604
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$1,498.95 
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Swarovski STM 65 Spotter Swarovski STM 65 Spotter
Stock # - SWA49718
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  • High Definition
$1,988.95 
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Swarovski STM 80 Spotter Swarovski STM 80 Spotter
Stock # - 49818
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Swarovski STS 65 Spotter Swarovski STS 65 Spotter
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$1,098.95 
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Swarovski STS 65 Spotter Swarovski STS 65 Spotter
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YEP. I bought a used ( 1 YEAR OLD ) SWAROVSKI STS 80 FOR 1400.00 3 weeks ago. to good of deal to pass up. i can see 308 and 223 cal holes at 400 yards  ( that is as far as my range goes ). marty
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Its probably a lot cheaper to buy a 45-70 and a cheap spotting scope and punch bigger holes because .22 holes are really hard to see. My poor little  Burris spotter struggles with 30 cal at 200 yds.
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I had the Bushnell Excursion 15-45x60 out at the range today and we could make out .22 holes pretty easily at 200 yards. At 300 yards, the targets were in the shade and it was alright looking at .30 cal holes but I could not make out .22 holes well enough to analyze them. (When changing targets, I took my .22 up close enough to get on paper at both distances since we had the 300 yard range to ourselves). Bear in mind it was less than 60F and very calm so ideal conditions other than the shade.
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The pros use 100mm Optolith, Kowa or Fujinons these firms produce astronomy grade scopes. You will need the 100mm objective lens to obtain the resolution to see tiny holes at those ranges.  Try some of the camera stores on line to find some of these scopes.
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I have the same need.  I just sold my cheapo 15-40x-50mm.  I am considering these 2 scopes.  I do not want to spend over $200 and need to see 308 up to 500 yards.  I know they will not be usable at full mag but hopefully past 50 or 60x.
Burris 25-75x70 XTS2575 Spotter Burris 25-75x70 XTS2575  $205
 
KONUS KONUSPOT 30-90X70 $100
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Has anyone used either of these?  I find no reviews on the Konus except up to 200yrs and the burris seems to be 1/2 and 1/2.  Thanks!
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Originally posted by azshooter azshooter wrote:

I have the same need.  I just sold my cheapo 15-40x-50mm.  I am considering these 2 scopes.  I do not want to spend over $200 and need to see 308 up to 500 yards.  I know they will not be usable at full mag but hopefully past 50 or 60x.
Burris 25-75x70 XTS2575 Spotter Burris 25-75x70 XTS2575  $205
 
KONUS KONUSPOT 30-90X70 $100
 
 
 I doubt you will be able to consistently see .308 holes at 500 yards with those scopes.
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If you are talking purely target/range use you would probably be better off with a remote video camera set up. Place a video camera near your target and a monitor on your bench.

I hope this link is ok as it's not pointing to a competitor but to something completely different.

http://www.6mmbr.com/targetcam.html
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I bought a Celestron Ultima 65 and was not happy with it.  I then bought the Burris XTS and am very please with it.  Clear 30 cal holes at 500yrds.  thanks
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Originally posted by azshooter azshooter wrote:

I bought a Celestron Ultima 65 and was not happy with it.  I then bought the Burris XTS and am very please with it.  Clear 30 cal holes at 500yrds.  thanks
 I stand corrected, then. The Burris must have pretty good glass!
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http://swfa.com/Zen-Ray-Spotting-Scopes-C2699.aspx  you might get more for your money with the Zen Ray their binoculars have recieved a lot of good press.
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