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I need a new rifle and Im looking for some opinions.  I'm trying to keep it under $600 (already bought the scope from SWFA...great deal by the way).  All I've ever shot are Model 70's, so I don't know as much about the other brands out there.  I don't think I can go wrong with the Remmy or Browning.  I'm not sure about the quality of the new Model 70's.  Here's what I'm looking at so far (all 308 win):
 
Remington Model 798 NIB.  $470. I like the Mauser 98 action, but I'm curious about the quality of the barrels.
 
Remington SPS  $600 +/-
 
Browning Compostie Stalker. $600
 
Marlin XS7  $300
 
Model 70 Syn-blued  $600 +/-
 
I'm up for any ideas or suggestions.  Thanks.
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You looking for a hunting rig or range king?
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if you like m70's i wouldnt advise you to go to remington, unless you want to buy an aftermarket three position safety. i had a hard time transitioning from the m70 to m700. im ok now, but still own both. i really like browning rifles too, i have had 2 of them now and really like them. the new m70's are actually very nice, they went back to a controlled push feed like the pre 64's had. the 798 i believe were made for remington by a company in serbia.
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

You looking for a hunting rig or range king?
 
It'll be a hunting rig.  I'm leaning towards a synthetic stock cause I hate dinging up a nice wood stock, but on the other hand, I'm having a hard time buying a plactic gun.  Nothing wrong with them, just not what I prefer.
 
Pyro -- I agree with you on the 3 position safety.  That's the big thing from keeping me from buying a Remington.  It's probably nothing I can't used too though.
I found a Custom Mauser 98 on a web auction with a Bueller safety ($625).  It looks like it's in decent shape.  I'm not sure what a Bueller safety is.
 
 
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im not saying that the remington safety is bad, its just different from what you would be used to.it takes a little range time to learn to deal with it, but its not a big thing.
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Don't know how your Walmarts are in your area but we have several Winchesters and Remingtons in our Walmart for less than $500.00 and they would make fine hunting rigs.
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

im not saying that the remington safety is bad, its just different from what you would be used to.it takes a little range time to learn to deal with it, but its not a big thing.
 
I know what you're saying.  I'm like you...I prefer the 3 stage safety.
 
SVT -- I don't know if the Walmarts around here sell guns.  I know they don't have displays up anymore, so I figured they quit selling them.  I'm going to check out a few of the small shops around here to see what they have.  I'm getting tired of dealing with the bigger outfits...they're pretty slow on call-backs.
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Well, good luck with the hunt my friend, keep us up to date on what you find. 

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Will do.
 
Thanks for your help guys.
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Savage is making one hellaof rifle right now to!
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I've been disappointed with my last few Remmy's. My last two and a buddy's last one have been sold off. I do like the Browning X-bolts and had a 300 WSM. It was light and handled very well. The trigger was very good too. Some don't like the Euro styling though. The TC Icons may also deserve a look-see but are more pricey. For a more value level, Tikkas are loved by many and usually shoot well. They do have some polymer parts though (such as the magazine). Howa's / Weatherby Vanguards and the Marlin are solid as well. Finally, the two new (Columbia) Win 70's I just looked at were pretty nice. Lots-o-choices out there.  Yippee
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I have a Smith and Wesson IBolt in .30-06 that I recently purchased. It is a plastic stock and feels a little cheap, but the gun uses a Thompson barrel. It's well within your price range and shoots really well. "groups tighter than my old Remington 788 .308"

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_763/products_id/50675

I've bought several guns from Bud's and their service and prices are very good.


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 Sako A7's on gunbroker are in your range and Tikka T3 lites are in that range also. I have had a couple of their products and both shot incredible.............especially for the money !! My Tikka T3 stainless .270wsm was bought for $499 and shot under moa !

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Didn't pay enough attention to your all .308's  Any reason for the dedication to that caliber? "I have 2 and love them both" If it's a real world thing like you already have a lot of shells or reloading dyes it's totally understandable. I don't hand load, and wanted more options in bullets so I went with the .30-06

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Of the rifles listed, I like the browning the best, the 60deg. bolt is very nice.  I also think the a7 should be looked at.  I haven't handled one, but they look very intriguing.

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Originally posted by neilbilly neilbilly wrote:

Didn't pay enough attention to your all .308's  Any reason for the dedication to that caliber? "I have 2 and love them both" If it's a real world thing like you already have a lot of shells or reloading dyes it's totally understandable. I don't hand load, and wanted more options in bullets so I went with the .30-06

Hope you're happy with whatever you end-up with.
 
I already have a .243 & .25-06, so I wanted something with a little more punch, with lower recoil, and a good variety of ammo...plus I've always wanted one.  I thought about a .30-06, but I'm pretty much set on the .308.  I'm not in a big rush to get anything, so I'm trying to take my time and find the best deal.
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Originally posted by lucytuma lucytuma wrote:

Of the rifles listed, I like the browning the best, the 60deg. bolt is very nice.  I also think the a7 should be looked at.  I haven't handled one, but they look very intriguing.

 
I like the Brownings too.  The X-Bolt is really nice, but a little out of my price range.  I'm not familiar with the a7.
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Originally posted by billyburl2 billyburl2 wrote:

Savage is making one hellaof rifle right now to!


Agree.  Was looking at a Savage with the accu-stock.  Didn't have one on the shelf, but ordered was $600.
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Originally posted by SD Dog SD Dog wrote:

Originally posted by billyburl2 billyburl2 wrote:

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Agree.  Was looking at a Savage with the accu-stock.  Didn't have one on the shelf, but ordered was $600.
 
I've looked at a few Savages too.  I don't know much about them but they seem like a solid rig.
 
Does anyone know anything about the Remington 798's?  I found one new-in-box for under $500.
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 The only rifles in my safe right now are Savages, except for one lonely model 336. The one thing I am sure of dollar for dollar Savage's out of the box accuracy can't be beat. I have used both synthetic and laminate stocks and accuracy is always around .75@100 to start.
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I love to go look at used guns in gun stores and pawn shops and gun shows.  Gun prices just keep going up on a lot of the stuff I like.  Even used guns are $500-600 and up...Shocked  
 
Nothing wrong with a Remington safety, it just doesn't swing in an arc like a Winchester.  The safe position allows you to open the Model 700 bolt these days.  A Buehler safety on a Mauser is an after market safety--usually on the left side of the shroud, but could also be on the right --to let you operate the safety by moving the lever up and down in a smaller arc than the factory safety which moved through a 180* arc over the back of the bolt shroud. 
 
Here is a right side safety.....( my sporterized Mauser is on the left side..) 
 
    
 
Here is an original 180* safety ....has to be moved all the way over to the guy's finger to fire......standing straight up would be On-Safe-Open-Bolt......  
 
 
 
If I had a bunch of money and were to go buy a New Rifle, I would look at the CZ 550.  But, I am a big fan of the Mauser type action.  But the CZs have gone up to $700-800 I think..... 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

I love to go look at used guns in gun stores and pawn shops and gun shows.  Gun prices just keep going up on a lot of the stuff I like.  Even used guns are $500-600 and up...Shocked  
 
Nothing wrong with a Remington safety, it just doesn't swing in an arc like a Winchester.  The safe position allows you to open the Model 700 bolt these days.  A Buehler safety on a Mauser is an after market safety--usually on the left side of the shroud, but could also be on the right --to let you operate the safety by moving the lever up and down in a smaller arc than the factory safety which moved through a 180* arc over the back of the bolt shroud. 
 
Here is a right side safety.....( my sporterized Mauser is on the left side..) 
 
    
 
Here is an original 180* safety ....has to be moved all the way over to the guy's finger to fire......standing straight up would be On-Safe-Open-Bolt......  
 
 
 
If I had a bunch of money and were to go buy a New Rifle, I would look at the CZ 550.  But, I am a big fan of the Mauser type action.  But the CZs have gone up to $700-800 I think..... 
 
 
 
 
I'm the same way...I love the Mauser action.  I've run across a couple of sporterized Custom Mauser 98's that didn't seem to be in too bad of shape, but it's hard to pay the same or more for a used rifle as you would for new.  It might be worth it though.  At least I'd have a good action if I wanted to go full custom.
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Originally posted by billyburl2 billyburl2 wrote:

Savage is making one hellaof rifle right now to!
 
Hell yeah! I recently spoke to my gun dealer and asked him about the Savage 14 American Classic and the FLCP-K (both left handed)...I can get them both over here for around $1200-$1250 Australian...that's one hell of a deal!!!
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

If I had a bunch of money and were to go buy a New Rifle, I would look at the CZ 550.  But, I am a big fan of the Mauser type action.  But the CZs have gone up to $700-800 I think..... 
 
 
I was looking at one of those until I found out they don't come in left hand...plus the fore-end on the current stock looks plain wrong.
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 AK too bad you are down under the Savages here in the states for lefties start at $591 and go up to about $1000.
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